The eliminiation of the Israeli state doesnt have to cause a second holocaust. Just go back to where you, your parents and your grandparents lived before you invaded other peoples homes.
I'm firmly against the Palestinian genocide, but, isn't this a little ridiculous? Shouldn't we just focus on ending the killings and stopping further colonization?
Like, as a 4th generation Canadian, do I need to go back to Ireland to make up for my great great grandparent's generation's gross history of colonial genocide?
You don't need to evict Jewish people to end Zionism.
The difference is that there are quite a lot of Palestinians alive today who had their homes stolen, and Israel keeps stealing more everyday. And they do it because they have always been allowed to keep what they stole in the past.
Its really not ridiculous. Imagine if the west still kept all its african colonies that were captured during WW2 times. Thats what Israel is, only that it is even younger. Basically all of its jewish population is either first or second generation immigrants/settlers.
Thats just flatly not realistic. Polling shows that Israelis on average are entitled, racist and violent. A plurality of them want every non jewish person expelled from Israel, citizen or not. And 47% of them want every Gazan killed, no matter their innocence. about 80% think the way the war is being executed in Gaza is just and should continue. They are fine with war crimes.
Its easy to conclude that they will not live in peace with anyone if they feel they control any state apparatus.
I wonder if we can find a new way of describing the notion of "Israel existing." It seems opponents believe we mean killing the occupants of Israel or (somehow removing the area entirely) rather than reforging the state itself. It's not like we don't want the geographical region to continue existing.
Maybe, just maybe, if you wanted to exist peacefully with your neighbors you'd stop indiscriminately bombing civilians and violating their civil rights.
Those people deserve to live in peace just as much as you. Stop being the aggressor. It's not fucking hard.
Go educate yourself on how Israel came into being in the first place.
It wasn't through peacefully asking Palestinians to share the land but by three groups, who gleefully wore the title of "terrorists" that bombed & killed their way into terrifying the populace.
It wasn't the Palestinians that planted a bomb in the King David Hotel that killed 96 in 1947. It wasn't Palestinians that carried out atrocities such as throwing babies into ovens in Deir Yassin and Tantura.
Israel was born out of collaboration with colonisers & imperialists, through selling out other Jews who opposed zionism, through a thousand acts of indiscriminate terrorism against the indigenous population and through an apartheid system since.
Bbbbbut what about October 7th?!!!
It's history equivalence is the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising but Israel ain't the oppressed fighting back.
Honestly not not sure if this is a pro-israel or pro-palistine comment. It reads like a condemnation of Israel's current action OR Israeli bullshit to justify their genocidal actions.
They can all fuck right off. There is so much I'd like to say but I cannot because I will be accused of inciting violence. Funny how Right wing and zionist incitement is allowed on social media, but when anyone left leaning says anything immediate bans. I'm hoping something of biblical proportions happens in Israel.
Maybe it will turn into a self fulfilling prophesy, anyway, these are words, I can't encourage anyone other than any gods out there to rain sulfer and all that.
I sympathise with the left wing Jews in Israel, but unfortunately, the genocide continues and this is their governement. Much like Maga now is, like it or not, the face of America, well Genocide is now the face of Israel.
Well not to split hairs, but seeing as they are currently perpetrating Second Holocaust, it would have to be more like Third Holocaust. But the problem with the Israeli comments is that unarmed civilians aren’t very effective at holocausts.
"If you dont fund my genocide I'll definitely be killed, because theres no way I'd stop my ethnic cleansing or give Palestinians their land and homes back."
"This latte is cold, this is a second holocaust, and antisemitic."
Yes, clearly Israel is using their weapons for defensive purposes, and if more weapons arent provided (for um defense, or course), All Israelis are under threat of annhialation.