It is Not Just a Copy, It is a Shitty Copy

While the original certainly has an actual style, i have to say that I have no fucking clue what I'm looking at with the trump face

looks like he's trying to make plane noises
They exaggerated Trump's characteristic pucker
An ugly as hell style (IMO), but a style nonetheless. The AI feels like a fastfood drawing.

If the person holding Trump was a caricature of an Israeli many would have lost their minds and called it antisemitic. But when it is an Arab no one cares about antisemitism anymore.

The AI image looks a bit less racist. Original author made the Arab head completely flat to insinuate they have no brains.
- Just wrong. Especially considering the context in which the "dumb arab" is using Trump to "open up America".

Im so confused about people saying they prefer the ai one. Just to double triple check that were all on the same page here, the ai one is the bottom one, right??

I think the bottom one is extremely boring and the top one looks sick af.

The AI one is generic and easier to read. Some people like that 🤷‍♂️
I thought AI was the top one. I actually prefer the AI one in this case. in the first one the guy's face and nose is square and the the drawing is shitty. the second is clear and not distracting
- God forbid an artist ever have style and good control of light. The AI one is plain boring, and has tons of shading errors. The original artists has a cool aesthetic, with lots of detail, vibrant colors and the facial expression looking at the viewer in smugness communicates a lot more than the AI one. So does the orange baby facial expression. It is all more lively and actually translates human emotion that says something about the situation. The AI one is basic and dull in comparison. So, anyways, media literacy…
- So you’re saying the first is stylized and the second is bland. We agree.

WTF is happening to his face in the original?

Pucker. Exaggerated.
I think he's making airplane noises — maybe the artist wanted to show him as utterly oblivious, and enjoying being a plane
It's an old racist trope.
The Making of Arab Stereotypes: Racist Portrayals in Political Cartoons during the 1970s Oil Crisis
- I meant Trump's face?
- bro aint nobody paying $56 to read that. did you mean for anyone to actually go look or did you just grab a link from google that looked sort of related?

Might be an unpopular opinion but honestly the ai one isnt even that bad

It's a knock-off copy of an original idea
The copy missed an important detail, clearly intended by the original artist: Trump's face. In the original artwork Trump is pictured as oblivious to the situation, making the plane noises, acting childish. In the statistical engine generated image, no such emotion is depicted.
A few important details, actually. In the original the Qatari is looking straight at the "camera", in a kind of "see this?" way.
Sloppy gen artifacts everywhere
- For me I view it as 2 different styles entirely even though its a copy and when you see it that way I think the ai one just gets the message across (Like The Original) which is the most important for me personally. But yea your points are not invalid but the results Are still decent
- The Qatari looks dead and lifeless, staring into the distance in the AI one.
  The real one he looks quite sinister, like he’s pulling the strings and he knows it. Part of that is, as you mentioned, his look into the camera, and another part is the lighting the artist chose, which is entirely absent in the AI image.
I think I prefer the AI one just because I don't understand what they are going for with Trump's face in the original. I assume he's supposed to look like something specific that I'm not understanding.
- I think he's supposed to be making vroom noises
As an artist myself, I agree.
They keep getting better. Eventually, they'll be more appealing than the original. We just think we're fucked now :)
- Imo (unless we Are Talking about costs (which again is also very nuanced)) ai will Never be more appealing than the original. Just maybe stand alongside them :)
- "Full-self driving next year"

Interesting. AI cannot make proper caricatures of people's faces apparently.

- I got the labels right.
  You can clearly see that all the AI can do is represent someone's face in a hand drawn cartoon style. It cannot exaggerate features to make it a caricature like the true artist did.
- nah look up pedro x molina, that's just how his style looks.

Is it that hard to criticize Arab leaders for their politics without being racist about it?

How is the depiction racist? Th entire purpose is to represent a country/culture... If you think that basal appearances are being racist when it's literally a charicature, you're still too stuck in the land of Political Correctness. Stop being a PC thinker.
In fact, I think it's depicting specifically Saudi royalty, who often show up in public wearing traditional garb, exactly as depicted. So... the comic being accurate makes you call it ... racist? Learn some damn media literacy before it's too late...
Apparently it is quite hard, the weird thing is I swear it is super easy to do, I just stood in my bathroom and criticized an Arab leader, and then an Israeli leader and in neither case did I resort to racism.
Is it just the fact that I have a massive brain that makes me able to do this?

I'm seeing this shitty AI style with the thick lines everywhere. It triggers a deep rage in my lizard brain like Corporate Memphis does but it's much worse

Is this meant to be a test of this sub or a joke? Second one actually knows how to draw a face. Wtf is going on in the top? Are these mislabeled?

A statistical engine "knows" nothing.
Just like you know nothing about caricatures.
- They probably know more than you LMAO 🤣

I can't tell which is more racist

Point to the racism in the graphic?
- Pretend this was a depiction of a Jew
Anti-Arab racism is so normalized that you got downvoted for pointing it out
- It's a charicature. If your charicature bares no stereotypes, it's not a charicature... Learn how art works before you label everything racist...
The first one for sure.

Pretty sure his face is supposed to look like a bottle opener. It looked weird small on my phone but zooming in I think it's clear. The intent is to parallel the phrase "opening up the Middle East to America" while turning the roles on their heads, he is opening America to the Middle East.

This is an extremely simple use of visual metaphor and the AI predictably flunks hard by excreting something which pleases aesthetically but is spiritually and artistically barren.

This is Lemmy trying to decide which racist picture they like better

LMAO then you guys later complain about racism hahahsj

A copy of a racist image is still a copy, and still racist. I don't see the conflict.
- Oh lol I scroll ed some more and there actually are people critiquing over which one they prefer

Hm neither one looks particularly like Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, and the headdress style is Saudi Arabian in both.

Both are kind of racist as fuck right? Relying on anti-arabic stereotypes to try to inflame fear about this. The Qatari jet is a major problem but it's not because some sinister Arab is secretly pulling the strings, it's because foreign governments can buy influence.

It’s the same thing… that “sinister Arab” is the foreign government buying influence, at least in the context of this plane.

Cheap lazy co-opting fucks.

USA is racist AF with these kinds of cartoons being "normal".

Check the original artist. Not American.
Nicaraguan, but go off I guess
How is it racist?
you're entirely right and the rest of the replies to you are dodging the fact that racist caricature is so normal in the US that we're largely blind to it.

Wow, an example where the AI slop copy is _less_of a racist caricature than the original.

There's always something new under the sun, I guess.

I wonder how the Borderlands stuff would look of run through ai.

When I was studying art in college there was like rules and I forget it was either design class or painting or something but there's like rules to this stuff and I wish I remembered and I'm gonna try to remember but there's like a standard like this is already set in stone the tech bros have destroyed everything and people just are unaware that there are already established guidelines i betcha inside of super snooty, pitooty, art critic circles, they would be able to answer my question very quickly.

What are you rambling about?
gestalt principles?