Mark Warner says Trump administration officials failed ‘security hygiene 101’
During Tuesday’s hearing, Gabbard told Warner that the Signal thread didn’t share any classified information but refused to share its contents, or even admit that she was on the chain.
“If it’s not classified, share the texts now,” Warner told Gabbard. “Share it with the committee. You can’t have it both ways. These are important jobs. This is our national security.”
IANAL, but because this was done on a third party encrypted chat app, doesn't it also violate the federal records act or something? If this was any other administration they would have been launched out of a cannon for that alone, not just the breach in security.
I anal too, but I think as long as they do submit the conversion to the record which they now still can if it didn't self delete, then they're covered. They can also declassify all of it and say "see?" like Trump did with the classified documents he stole for Mar a Lago.
Signal isn't on an approved list, but the federal records act really just said there will be a council headed by an administrator or whatever to make rules and collect the records. So the current administrator, which could be a vacant seat or a MAGA Hat for all I know right now, would be in charge of this, and probably just hand it over to congress.
I'm not personally into the idea of ANAL, but I like how its simultaneously not classified info, and also they've forbidden the journalist from sharing it further ...because its classified info.
"It's classified" is a nice catch-all excuse to use when you just don't want to answer for your actions.
Trump literally just got finished broadcasting and tweeting about flights that were deporting Venezuelans, topping it off with an "Oopise" taunt. But when he's brought in front of a judge and is expected to answer for that.......Sorry, classified. State secrets.
Trump's team talks about bombing the shit out of Yemen, then goes and bombs the shit out of Yemen. And is now trying to say they didn't talk about anything classified while talking about bombing the shit out of Yemen during a signal chat without even a hint of realization that the entire conversation was classified. Talking about impending war plans IS FUCKING CLASSIFIED BY DEFAULT YOU FUCKING CHODES
Its funny because republicans clearly do not give a shit about the rules and will continue to do whatever they want. And the dems made little signs to show they are unhappy. All while murica has fallen!
TBF I think they're saying liberals are only mad because Trump's genocide is incompetent. Like, liberals aren't mad about the actual content of the messages, they're mad that Trump broke the law.
Does anyone find it disgusting that conservatives now AREN'T mad that Obama was incompetently committing mass murder in the Middle East? (Because Trump is now doing the same?)
Personally, and morally, our anger should be towards the people NOT upset at Mass Murder, which as you have explained, isn't liberals.
To be clear, yes, liberals turned a blind eye to this during Obama. But to your point, they aren't now. Trump, instead, is murdering without care, and his base is celebrating it.
A blind eye isn't the same as active support, and MAGA is actively supporting murder. While at worst, liberals still have blinders on.
Personally, I'm not going to spend any time chastising a lesser evil. But many did during our previous elections, which is how Trump got elected both times.
Harris + Isreal being a great recent example.
Because no matter how bad Harris was, it's not Trump turning Gaza into a night club.
What disgusting hate should we throw her way about Gaza now that it's targeted for demolision by Trump?
At best, it's wasteful to be so angry at liberals now. At worst, it's stupid, and will keep the people you should be angry at in power to do worse things more frequently as it has for both of Trumps elections.
Does anyone find it disgusting that conservatives now AREN'T mad that Obama was incompetently committing mass murder in the Middle East? (Because Trump is now doing the same?)
I mean hopefully?
To be clear, yes, liberals turned a blind eye to this during Obama. But to your point, they aren't now. Trump, instead, is murdering without care, and his base is celebrating it.
That's not what I'm talking about here. Of course the hypocrisy there is also ridiculous, but that's not what I'm trying to say. My point is: Liberals seem to have more of a problem with the bad opsec than with the actual mass murder. As if competently murdering brown people in the hundreds is somehow better than incompetently murdering them. This is the reaction of people who are only marginally opposed to mass murder.
Yes, these are people's lives, and now everyone is mad that Trump is being incompetent about murdering those people. The only sane reaction to a dictator failing to massacre a population is happiness that he's not competent about it. The reactions I'm seeing only imply that liberals are okay with the actual bombing and only mad that Trump is not following opsec. By the way I'm not MAGA; leftists hate liberals too.
I think mass murder is despicable. Considering the US government had engaged in large scale extra judicial killings for decades (whether red or blue, no fucking difference), my country disgusts me. But, are you legit saying doing so incompentently is the problem? Not the murder. The incompetence.
But, are you legit saying doing so incompentently is the problem? Not the murder. The incompetence.
Uh... No? I'm mad that Americans seem to be more mad that the mass murder is being done incompetently than about the mass murder itself. It's like competent mass murder is acceptable but bad ospec is not.