'Someone's butthurt': Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez hits back at Elon Musk's conspiracy theory
'Someone's butthurt': Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez hits back at Elon Musk's conspiracy theory
U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) on Sunday returned fire at the richest man in the world, Elon Musk. Recently Ocasio-Cortez has been in the news for massive events alongside Senator Bernie Sanders. Right-wing influencer Mario Nawfal took to X over the weekend, suggesting tha.....
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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) responded to Elon Musk’s conspiracy theory that Democrats move the same group of paid protesters to different events.
Right-wing influencer Mario Nawfal claimed GPS data showed only 20,000 attendees—less than the reported 34,000—at recent rallies and suggested most had attended multiple past protests.
Musk amplified this claim, alleging the use of paid protesters.
Ocasio-Cortez dismissed Musk's claim with "Someone's butthurt," adding he should find "a new, more interesting conspiracy theory to peddle."
Every accusation is a confession....
It's amazing how consistent this is with fascists.
You can look back at their statements and it's true like 86% of the time--every SINGLE THING they accuse others of doing is something that they, themselves are demonstrably engaged in.
When those people post on the internet, it really should just be a long line of regular people replying 'Every accusation is a confession.'
@clonedhuman @BedSharkPal worth noting that those people have also spent their time since 2020 accusing Dems of rigging elections. Seems bizarre to me that nobody's looked into it. All the swing states when he couldn't fill a stadium? With the lowest approval rating of any president ever? With Elon paying people to send in their voter registration details? Yeah ok, let's not check anything before special elections and midterms...
It's because they completely lack empathy. The entirety of possibilities in their minds is 100% limited to things that they themselves (and MAYBE close family) have experienced first hand.
They can't help but project because they're literally not creative enough to think of any other reason to do a thing besides the reason they did it.
It's funny I heard yesterday some guy that's very good at a game called Trackmania talk about something similar. One day he got accused by someone even better than him of cheating. Turns out the accuser was actually the one cheating lol.
I guess you know about cheating when you are and the frustration is even greater whwn you lose because you believe deep down that it's impossible to do better without cheating. Admitting that you lost would create cognitive dissonance so your only option left is to accuse the other one of the very thing you did.
Lack of GPS devices because 1/3 of the people that attended left their phones and other trackable devices at home just in case shit went down and they needed to fuck things up. More people need to do this.
What GPS data? It just sounds like BS being spewed.
Yea I don’t think he gets access to “GPS data”
If you use a faraday bag, there’s no need to leave your phone.
Sure, but once you get arrested the Faraday bag won't be of any use unless you toss the whole thing -including phone- beforehand.
Why bring it if you are just crippling it away, and still risk leaks giving your position? If you want photos, bring an old school digital point and shoot.
So, where does the guy get this data? Do phone companies give out their network data?
Yep they do. Its either directly or through apps that track and sell your location data. But lots of people either wouldnt have their phone with them or have gps disabled so this 20k number is obviously stupid.
lots of
peopleliberals & other readers either wouldnt have their phone with them or have gps disabledFTFY.
Yah I think your overestimating the lot of people.
They do not, at least not in the way that this couple of Twitter influencers is claiming.
If you are a bounty hunter (bail bondsman) for instance you can pay a fee to get a rough location on a phone number that you provide. That does not work in this instance, there's no service that allows you to ask, "send me the phone numbers and account ownership names of every single mobile device in this 3 mile radius during the protest".
There is absolutely no way they have tracking data for the 30,000-odd attendees across all the various mobile providers and platforms (Apple/Google/etc) just a day or so later without state-level surveillance agencies access. And even then, the picture would be incomplete and need a LOT of work for them to make the claims they're making about it overlapping with other groups they're monitoring.
Its all made up.
The government has devices called stingrays that perform a mitm attack granting access to a few types of information, including GPS: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker
Whistleblowers revealed NSA equipment rooms at at&t: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/03/memoriam-mark-klein-att-whistleblower-about-nsa-mass-spying
Almost every citizen is carrying a tracking device with a powerful microphone, all their communications, and location. It's a little tinfoil hattish, but I would be willing to bet they can draw a shape on a map and see who was in that area during a certain timeframe.
Leave your phone home if you are attending any events that the government might not like.
You don’t even need a complicated MITM attack like that. The data is for sale by the telecoms.
It's literally why Google stopped storing location history. And people where complaining about it.
And your assuming they even have data or are just making shit up.
They can draw a shape on a map and see who's in there. They did it during occupy wallstreet
So, where does the guy get this data?
From his arsehole.
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Mules!!Fools!
It's interesting that this trope about bussed or paid protesters gets repeated so often. In Germany, the AfD claimed that protesters were bussed and got paid, even with tax money. It's like they share talking points.
All of the far right movements use the same talking points now, they just tailor them for local audiences. The GOP started spreading its filth worldwide decades ago. None of this is an accident.
It's a pattern that was primarily established when the Reagan Administration (and Don Regan, the CEO of Merrill Lynch) took over in the 1980s. Most of the ideas come from Lee Atwater who was an absolutely horrendous human being.
They have been running almost exactly the same playbook since then.
Fun fact back in I want to say 2008 there was a big old anti-gay protest thing that filled up a stadium here in California, turned out a solid chunk of attendees were bussed in by the Mormon fucken church. Sadly this fact wasn't dug up particularly well until after prop 8(?) which banned gay marriage, luckily I think we have since voted it out. Also yes it did swing public opinion that badly, luckily I think it reaffirmed our weird xenophobia here in California so I don't think it'd work again.
Because for the right, the concept of people coming together as a grassroots movement and setting aside some political differences to unite as a group, was unheard of until Tea Party/MAGA.
It’s an implicit admission - how else could ‘those radical lefties/gays/immigrants/etc’ get these crowd sizes except by astroturfing like the right has to?
In countries that are ostensibly democracies to justify your actions you have to claim you have majority support. Any crowd of people is a threat to that perception, so it makes sense (in a shitty way) that we see the "paid protestors" attack so often.
Good, that means the bad guys are actually scared. Let the organizing continue.
We can start saving our country by winning local elections, and I'm glad that's part of AOC/Bernie's plan. It's incredible (probably deliberate) how poorly the DNC leadership understands this country.
They've been pouring all their resources into national elections while neglecting state and county elections. The GOP figured out 20 years ago that dominating local politics is the secret to power in the US, and it's long past time that we actually tried to counter them.
Because Republicans ALWAYS accuse others of what they are doing. Jan6 folks were bussed in, free of charge. You can find a number of the same people at Krasvov's rallies - don't any of them have jobs?
Not so fun fact: Ginny Thomas, the wife of US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, helped organize and pay for those buses.
If you have GPS turned off, would it register? I don't know why people have GPS on unless they're actively using it.
GPS itself isn’t the issue. Devices like smartphones are GPS receivers only, meaning they can only receive GPS signals. It’s what those devices do with GPS that’s the actual problem.
The thing is, smartphones can be tracked by multiple methods. You can locate them via cell tower triangulation. And to a lesser extent even WiFi tracking, Bluetooth tracking, etc. So if you really don’t want to be tracked then turn your devices completely off. Or better yet leave them home.
Leave them on at home specifically engaged in some idle game, like Cookie Clicker et al. so it looks like you were engaging with it.
For the question here (whether the GPS count is accurate for Harris' rally) I'm asking only about the GPS tracking, not wifi tracking or cell tower tracking. That's assuming musk meant GPS and not generalized location.
Fascista used to move around cattle by plane to show it off at various events as local to lay claims of wealth. It's always projection.
This article is just commentary about some tweets, with nothing additional.
"This asshole 'meh meh meh', and then this other douche bag said 'yeah like meh', and then everyone's favorite lefty said 'butt'."
Sounds like someone is butthurt over this article
Witty!
It's not going to do much at this point, but I'll give you a +1. I'm all in on AOC, but this isn't even an article. No insight, no attempt to discern any truth, and barely even able to contextualize the tweets. It's trash for clicks.
That's basically every RawStory article, tbh.