Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia

His plane has crashed and he's on the passenger list, but it's not proven yet that he was on the plane. He's the person, who faked his death in the past.

It seems like oddly coincidental timing that Russia also officially relieved Surovikin as head of the airforce today (he still hasn't been seen since the mutiny): https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/23/russia-removes-sergei-surovikin-as-head-of-aerospace-forces
Not saying he's definitely dead, but I doubt this is him faking his own death so much as him slipping an assassination attempt if he's alive.
- Ah yes. The general who the Kremlin said was "resting." Nothing ominous about that.
- Agreed, coordinated take down of Prigozhin and his allies.
I heard it played out exactly like the opening scene from Dark Knight Rises, too.
- i want to get a hug from Tom Hardy too.
Imagine blowing up a $5M Embraer just to fake his own death - and kill others in the process.
I'm sure Putin's chef had money lying around, but burning all that cash sounds a little desperate to me.
- Raise hands if you'd rather die for realsies to save $5M in expenses
- That's not what I said.

Impressive Russia was able to push an entire plane out of a high rise window.

It was Novichok-ing the tires…
Aren't airplane "accidents" more of a traditional CIA method? Not saying it was them, but from Putin I would expect poison or window.
Or maybe this is how Prigozhin decided to disappear. He may be on a beach in the Caribbean drinking a piña colada for all we know.
It's funny how nobody actually believes this was an accident.
- Maybe it was Homelander.
they put polonium-210 in the engines

Wait, am I reading this right that the plane was shot down by russian air defence? If this is backed up at all by anything like a russian source, then this will just further enforce option that russia can not be trusted to do anything it says and that putin is weak and threatened (both are true but I thought the kremlin would at least try to say/show otherwise).

How does russia keep messing up this bad? I am constantly shocked and awed.

- Yeah, a pointless one that makes them look like predictable idiots. Most will not be unhappy at his death and those that would be are on russia's side of this conflict. This (if it is what it looks like now) is like making a martyr just for assholes.
If this is backed up at all by anything like a russian source
The Guardian is reporting this:
The cause of the crash was not immediately clear, but Prigozhin’s longstanding feud with the military and the armed uprising he led in June would give ample motive to the Russian state for revenge. Media channels linked to Wagner quickly suggested that a Russian air defence missile had shot down the plane.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/aug/23/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-drones-downed-moscow#top-of-blog
- Yes, I am hoping we get more info from anyone else then Wagner group soon.
https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1694397010680361239?s=20
Wings generally don't just fall off without some kind of help.

I've never seen tankies and libs ever so united in celebration.

We from neither are also pretty whelmed by this turn of events
- I dunno, this seems good for Putin to me. But I'm not an expert in geopolitics and war...
It's a lemmy special

What a disappointing guy. The least he could have done was take out Putin before he died.

Watch him showing up at Kremlin proclaiming himself Peter the Great reborn.

I'm fully expecting Russian media to explain how those evil Ukranians sneaked a missile battery or a fighter jet into Moscow airspace and shot down a plane that just happened to contained Putin's mortal enemies.

I was expecting them to say the plane fell out of a window.

Well the plane did crash against the missiles sent towards it.

Seems like Putin may have held a grudge after all.

Maybe frustrated after India did what his lot couldn't.
- Nonsense. India and ruzzia both made it to the moon. The ruzzians just did it more aggressively.

Best reply ever

When it’s hard to toss a man out of a window. Or shoot or poison him. Just down his plane. Easy.

Perhaps he's wondering why you would shoot a man before throwing him out of an airplane?
- If the man is Rasputin?
This had nothing to with simplicity. It had everything to do with the Kremlin executing him and his entourage mafia style.

The simplest explanation is usually the right one though.
What about the others on the plane, crisis actors?
What's in it for Putin? Why would he be giving favors like that to someone who turned his troops against Moscow? He made Putin look like a fool.
So, why would he be giving him favors?

I am shocked I tell you. Who could have predicted such an accident

Only thing I am seeing on this is that two of Wagner's private jets were in the air, and one crashed over St. Petersburg while taking off from Moscow.

The other jet that belongs to him turned around and landed in Moscow airport after losing contact with the first. Which is pretty strange.

It is assumed that The leader Prigozhin and his 2nd in command were supposedly on board. As Russia state media is claiming they are dead.

However, Russia State Media has been lying quite a bit though this war, so it has to be taken with a grain of salt.

As of now 7 10 bodies have been found.

However, just day's earlier, Prigozhin was seen in Africa as if "announcing their services" to a developing situation. So why did he suddenly end up in Moscow? The one place he knows he isn't safe?!

Edit:
2:24pm
Wagner's media is also claiming they both died.

He has been flying around Russia quite a bit since the coup, clearly he thought he was safe.

Was only a matter of time…

What's the opposite of SurprisedPikachuFace.jpg?
- I believe it’s “SurprisedPikachuFace.jpg”
- ComplacentSlowPokeface.bmp
- GrinningPutinFace.jpg

Do I have to point out that this title is misleading? Don't get me wrong, I'd be glad if it were true... one less child killer roaming the world but if you read the article it hasn't been confirmed by western sources he was on that plane.

Ah yeah the guy who opposed Putin

Yeah surprise he's dead

I won't shed a tear for Prigozhin and his gang but I haven't heard a single person speak about the uninvolved crew members of the plane who also got killed with this.. poor souls

People seem awfully quick to accept the narrative - it seems to me this would be the easiest way for him to disappear on his own terms.

I think the key thing is that there isn't really a compelling reason why Russia would want to take his death. And if prigozhin has actually just faked his death to go retire on an island somewhere, the result for the rest of the world is practically the same
- Russia could have reason to fake his death, but that would be only to facilitate them killing him in a more gruesome way.
- Until he gets pulled out of retirement for one final stand. This is like the type of shit you'd see in a movie, it practically writes itself. Reality is stranger than fiction lol
  I still think he's dead for real though.
Either way, he is gone.
How is a plane crash the "easiest way"? And why on earth would Putin do him the favor of providing a new identity? What does Putin gain from that?
- no remain identifiable, etc. Putin doesn’t gain anything, but the dude presumably knows he was on the kill list so disappearing would be in his interest

I'm surprised it took this long

Special crashing plane operation.

That is a conventient "accident"!

Shooting a plane down with missiles isn't even a pretend accident.

The article doesn't mention which agency is responsible for the murder of 10 people and what are the expected sentences for the murder

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Hopefully the same thing happens to Putin next.

There is as yet no evidence that the plane was shot down by a Ukrainian drone built in a cave out of scrap.

- Hmm. I guess that joke fell flat.
- Solsty air base is well north of Moscow, almost to St Petersburg. It was hit just a few days ago.
Sorry about your Ironman reference

But did the plane have windows?

No, it was running Linux.
- Then it wouldn't have crashed.
  Probably running Windows Embedded and went for an update. An hour is long time to wait to get flight control back.
It crashed, so of course it ran Windows.

Mr. Putin, meet Lieutenant Columbo, from the LAPD. He'd like to have a few words with you Sir. Just a few questions about this tragic accident involving an acquaintance of yours, a Mr. Prigozhin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyfywQ98dIU

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Warner Bros. or Wagner boss?

Wagner Bros.

It'll be interesting to see if the Wagner Group will now fall in line or if Putin just poked a hornet's nest.

What's fucking hilarious is that I called this as soon as he backed down. On the former place, lots of people talking about how confusing it all was and I'm like nah he's gonna die in an "unfortunate" plane crash.

He should have gone all in. He should also have known that you can't cross Putin like this and not expect retaliation.

This was expected to happen the moment he backed down.

- I think Putin has had cancer since February last year now lol

I've been following this on Russian- and English-language sites. Nobody but BBC alleged Russian responsibility, and they cited no evidence. Remember when Boris Johnson personally tanked peace negotiations?

A plane with a lost wing that looks to have been hit by a missile with photos of it falling from the sky and videos of the explosion as it hits the ground on Russian soil. Russia tanked peace negotiations when they didn't leave Ukraine.
There is more evidence about this than evidence of Putins butthole. I guess the only people who will really know are the salad flipping pro Russian propagandists.
- Show us the evidence.
No, everyone else just says it between the lines instead. Hinting at it if you will.
Maybe it's just dangerous to be above the ground in Russia. So many people are mistakenly falling out of windows these days.
- I have to ask, who else these days? b/c I fear we are demonizing Russia, Russians, and Putin the same way we demonized Iraq, Arabs, and Saddam Husein before our awful foray into that country. UK and France have been actively discouraging Ukraine during peace negotiations. See for yourself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_negotiations_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

I always read it as Warner Bros...

Oopsie.

putin is still at large. Any chance we can you know 😜...tall building? Maybe 🤔 special taco sauce in his milk tonight? Or an ice bullet? You know, anything would be acceptable. Like if you just accidentally run him over with your Ford Fiesta and then a steam roller just happened to finish the job, that would still be pretty acceptable.

Good riddance, though a plane crash seems like a relatively easy way to "kill" someone while they go into hiding.

"oops"

I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't on that plane. Doubt that the guy was so stupid as to fly inside Russia openly.

Icarus

Such a sad coincidence

I wonder what sort of brute will replace him.

Well, who would expect that something bad happens to him....

not suprising

Good riddance to rotten garbage!

Sorry for the xitty link:
https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1694397086458892628

Man, I can't help myself comparing this to the opening of The Dark Knight Rises (that one guy injected Dr. Pavel's blood/DNA, and then sacrifices himself).