Man it's going to be great when all 50 of us get fired from our jobs.
Wake me up when normies are on board. I'm not fucking up my life for nothing.
Can we stop making random calls like this on social media? We need actual organization and leadership to be directing this stuff.
This kind of organization doesn’t really work, you cant just set a day without a strong organized backing
Then contact them and help them organize.
My first impulse on reading this stuff is "Who are you guys? I've never even heard of you before?"
Like, I definitely get the Think Big impulse but... this is reprint of a rallying cry from a lightly distributed Canadian Newspaper. Is this even directed at Americans? Idfk.
I might at least take this more seriously if I'd heard about it through my local DSA chapter rather than as a random graphic on the back corner of a small social media forum.
You can always contact the organizers and constructively offer help, I’m sure they would welcome it.
I wish you best of luck to fight against your authoritarian and early-fascist regime.
Nevertheless it's also possible to let the US burn down and join the united states of Europe. We need more (left) minded people as well before it's too late like in the US.
Banning Science and specific topics in education...that's how it began here in Germany
Really appreciate that. Thanks.
Good luck, he would probably win another election today. Cant save a democracy where the electorate is stupid.
How do you think fascism arose in Germany? Was it a complex process set forth by the treaty of Versailles, embarrassment after WWI, rapid technological advancement by Germany, instability from the great depression, instability in the Weimar republic, etc...
Or do you really think fascism just comes out of the aether when somehow millions of voters become "stupid" all of a sudden?
We should probably try though, because of the implications.
Might be better off signing up here. They're trying to get commitments for a general strike.
They document working on narrowing their demands more specifically once they hit certain goals.
That looks like a lot more practical approach.
I signed up and asked about 20 people to sign it. ✊🏻
I’ll Post It.
Well, that's a Saturday so I won't be doing anything anyway.
Everyone bickering in this thread needs to just repost this image somewhere and shut up. That's how these things spread, via small communities. The only reason I saw it was this post, the only reason someone else might learn about it is my post. Unless you already have a better idea, and are organizing and trying to promote it, the least you can do is try and spread the word. The only way we win is together, so either bring a better solution to the table or get in line and help us fight.
Thank you.
Terrible date. Make it a weekday.
We protested Wednesday, and people complained that it wasn’t a weekend. I’m beginning to think some people don’t think there’s ever a good time to protest.
If this is supposed to be a shutdown that gets attention then it needs to be on a day where it would be noticed. A significant percentage of people are already off work, at home, and not shopping on Saturday. It's silly to pick that date just because it's the Ides of March.
I get the whole Ides of March thing but please pick a weekday for a general strike. This is essentially forcing low-wage workers whose positions are more precarious to stop working while white-collar workers basically do nothing.
Low-wage workers work on weekdays too. And they will often get fired for missing work for any reason, not just protesting.
"You can't pick a weekday, the poors can't risk missing a day off from their second job!"
I mean, it's a Saturday. I'll already be doing nothing.
A 10 day general strike would get their attention but I doubt US voters have the stomach for it.
Source: am US voter
People quarantined for longer in the not so distant past. You have a month to get ready and don’t have to do shit when it’s time. Seems like a no brainer, even for those who don’t want to come out and protest.
I don’t disagree at all. I don’t live in the US but the ones I keep in touch with that do tell me their peers seem apathetic and unengaged. Which says a lot about how we got here.
Big reason they keep us so poor and vulnerable.
People would have to be willing to pool their resources for that.
Is this bigger than just a single image? Any actual orgs or anything? Just the Newspunch guys and a few social media tags?
I doubt any of the conservatives will be participating.
March 15th is a Saturday. Most things are already closed on Saturday.
White collar places are. This is asking mostly blue collar workers to make a sacrifice.
So? Gotta start somewhere. Blue collar are the guys that are gonna take the first hits, after all.
"Most things."
Really just 9-5 offices, schools, and places they support. And that's a benefit because the corporate folks will be able to join as well. People will be able to bring the kids. College students won't miss class.
Basically you're taking away the "oh I have to work" excuse from folks who want to get involved. And if folks like that start to join, this thing is going to get big.
Bring the kids to what? Be involved in what? I think the point is to stay home and not travel or spend money or work.
how about you stop posting about it with a PNG on a forum that gets like 20k visitors a month (high end) and go talk to your neighbors and coworkers about doing something more directly local?
You can post while waiting in line or while multitasking, as many of us do. You can do both. Also, the irony of your comment.
Because I live in Trump County so all my neighbors suck. MAGA hats everywhere.
I still fight back by printing out anything I find on here that is critical of Trump and posting it by the mailboxes in the middle of the night when everyone is asleep, but they get ripped down the same morning, every single day.
It's depressing, and I'm afraid that if I keep doing it the neighborhood will eventually track me down and lynch me, but every day I post a new piece of propaganda. I'm fighting back the safest possible way I can.
Do what you gotta do. Ignore the people who don't think you're protesting "the right way". They almost certainly aren't doing shit themselves.
I guarantee you there are local politicians in your area who absolutely suck shit, who have established enemies, who aren't as secure in their positions as they think they are
go learn who they are and make their lives hell.
Listen to what? What are the demands?
Here are the demands from the site as of when I accessed it:
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Protection and permanent guarantee of civil rights for all
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Total government reform
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Publicly funded health care
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Adequate and accessible disability support and services
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A permanent solution to Homelessness, hunger and the housing crisis
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Respect and support for tribal Sovereignty and involvement with indigenous leadership for environmental action
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Enhanced enforcement of constitutional rights
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More power to american voters
Personally, I believe these are not specific enough. If I may be so bold, I'll rewrite them:
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Improved laws at the municipal, state, and federal levels to include LGBTQ persons as protected classes under anti-discrimination law, including explicit punishments for owners and minimum damages award amounts
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Replacing district-based voting with proportional representation for representatives at state and federal levels, first-past-the-post voting with either ranked choice voting or approval voting at municipal and state levels, and your state joining or better advertising if already joined the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact
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Single-payer healthcare at the federal level, including coverage of preventative treatment and protection for pre-existing conditions
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Clarified laws around enforcement of disability support, including failure modes to prevent dropping compliance and punishments scaling to the wealth of the offender, at the state level for physical locations and services and at the federal level for online services
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Funding and development of government housing and support for the unhoused, including mental health services, training for entering the workforce, training in financial hygiene, and addiction treatment, be it chemical (e.g. drugs) or behavioral (e.g. gambling)
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Clarified and improved enforcement of laws at the federal level for ensuring the sovereignty and support of indigenous peoples, including environmental protections in line with their beliefs, punishments for private entities including corporations that violate their sovereignty, and failsafes to prevent intentional lack of enforcement by government entities
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Incorporating government ethical norms into the US Constitution, closing loopholes that enable abuse of power, strengthening ethics review committees' power to remove individuals using government power unethical, creating federal and state level departmental entities enshrined in law to ensure constitutionally granted rights
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Explicitly excluding corporations and similar non-individual entities from contributing campaign funds to political candidates, outlawing lobbying, drastically increasing public political campaign funding based on a metric that scales with the economy, further limiting private funding for political campaign funding based on a metric that scales with the economy, defining independent entities for auditing and pursuing legal action against tampering with voting mechanisms including voters registration methods, ballot submission methods, and voter tampering methods - all via constitutional amendment
People can fix my grammar/typos. Yes, I know more specific demands are more difficult to acquire alignment on from broader audiences, but I think these would be palatable up most Americans.
However, I am realizing that my points above are too verbose for quick consumption. Via web media, maybe they could be hidden as expandable sections beneath the original bullet points
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My friend, maybe edit the original post to include this? A lot of us remember how much support and visibility Occupy Wallstreet got and how ineffective it was due to lack of direction.
It's only my intuition, but I think it may be easier to get people onboard by listing demands/goals, even if they're only tentative.
With these kinds of things, we're asking people to do a lot of work. The lower we can make the initial barriers to entry, the more likely people are to consume enough info that they become more willing to put in effort. This means prioritizing headline information well, making graphics appealing, etc
All this said, I haven't organized this kind of stuff. I defer to those with demonstrable success in these things
Keep fighting the good fight <3
If this isn't going viral on mainstream social media, I fear there won't be much use to posting it here.
On Reddit.
It's more use posting it here than not posting it here. People here can see it and share on traditional social media.
However the question is if there are any labor organizations officially participating in this. If not, this seems a bit weird. And what are the actual demands? Change to what? These are the bigger problems than the location of the post.
I suppose that's fair, there are just a lot of people here who are here because they quit traditional social media.
Also known as a general strike. All the best for you!
I fear by mid March we'll already be screwed.
Hitting capitalists in the wallet is the only way to get them to change course.
Doesn’t matter what our ‘demands’ are or what they need to ‘listen to’ and we don’t need a perfectly written manifesto to protest these fucks destroying lives and our country’s support systems.
Don’t fall for the whiners saying it won’t do anything. If the wheels stop turning, even for a couple days, it will hurt the things they care about (money) and send a powerful message.
I will re-iterate for anyone that has the misfortune of reading through the dialogue below: Do not let anyone talk you into apathy. All they have to do is sit and type about how everything is a waste of time. Ask yourself why they would bother to do that? Why are they so afraid of people trying to make things better without having a perfect plan (when there's no such thing)? The answer is pretty obvious when you think about it for a minute.
Give 'em hell.
How about you shut this shit down right fucking now. I don’t think we all want to suffer for another six weeks. Hell I don’t even think you’ve got another six weeks.
Speaking as an outsider here but Jesus America, enough is enough already. The best time to act was three months ago, the second best time is now.
Ya really think that those corporate dick sucking Maga dumbfucks actually do anything? We are like 10 people in total just Circlejerking about a revolution, and half arent even in America. A strike will do nothing
We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!
Won’t matter :(
