"AI curated wine"
Back reads "Delve into the CTZN experience, where A.I. unites with the artistry of traditional winemaking. Luminous drift captures this perfect fusion, a wine expertly crafted by A.I. algorithms and refined by a vintner's touch to invigorate your palate with its bright, fresh, and lifted elegance"
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I HAVE A GREAT IDEA BRO, LETS MAKE AI WINE BRO. YOU WRITE THE ALGORITHMS TO TELL AI TO MAKE THE BEST WINE POSSIBLE AND I WILL FIND INVESTORS BRO
I'd do it. And make ChatGPT write the algorithms too.
It's just to get investor money in the coffers, nothing more. Still won't buy anything that markets itself like that because I think it's cynical, but they're just lying to investors so it's not the end of the world 🤷♂️ gotta cram those buzzwords!!! Cloud wine! This wine was made on the Blockchain! Check out our unique Web3 Wine - Wine3! NFTea! Scam industry lol
The QR code offering a virtual tasting blows my mind. Do they send you an airplane bottle? Do they describe the wine as someone else drinks it? Do you have to jack in?
Think I'll still just buy the cheap stuff that tastes good.
Portugal is a great nation for it.
Funnily enough, port is my wine of choice.
I was at IKEA for ....my wife dragged me there after Christmas to checkout furniture. Let me explain... If one day you buy a house, they sell it without all the things you like... Couches, beds, etc. You use your body to touch and feel those things at a thing store. GenX might never need to know, RIP IKEA. Anyway, at the exit, they had this really cheap Christmas themed wine. I don't known what the heck they mixed dog shit with but, the taste was like if you went to an old library with people smoking and you licked the handrails and book covers. I state the taste as "stately". It tastes like an old government office chair seat on a wet leaky roof Friday night.
If AI will be producing tastes, I hope IKEA doesn't (o please please don't) offer any recipes or samples. In fact we should probably bring our own food to IKEA the next time we go. Possibly just a bottle of chili could be enough for a better tasting meal...just grab some cardboard, add the chilli and microwave it. The world doesn't need to remember that taste.
For your attention, thanks! I'm no hero, millions of people tasted it and became victims. All I'm asking if that you don't let it happen to you.
Oh look, another AI abomination trying to "disrupt" winemaking! CTZN - because apparently vowels are too traditional. Love how they slapped "human crafted" next to "AI curated" like that makes any sense. What's next, robot sommeliers? A neural network that tells me my palate is statistically basic? Keep your QR-coded Silicon Valley grape juice, I'll stick to actual wine.
I mean I brew beer, and I've used AI to help with a few recipes because having to search through brewgr and the mirad of different recipes is time consuming, when ultimately to brew a beer has the same overarching ingredients and process.
Though I wouldn't solely rely on it and to advertise that using AI just feels like a gimmick.
I don't think something with no sense of taste (or a sense of anything really) would be too good with making things where the taste is the whole point...
It's like how in Futurama, Bender wants to be a cook really bad but ends up making really shitty 'food', because he has a vague idea of what food is and what goes in it, but doesn't really know how to actually cook.
imagine being the graphic designer who had to work on this bottle without cringing
I mean, it's probably about as good as a human curated experience. Especially if the curated list is by a human with no taste.
(scribbles on pad) "Shark . . . . jumped . . . on Tuuuueeesday . . . Febur. . wait, FebROO . . arry . . . shit . . 'Feb' . . fourth . . . twenty . . . twenty five."
Literally deadly neurotoxin, except people voluntarily ingest it, even pay for it. GLaDOS has some thinking to do.
Because if there’s one thing we know about algorithms, it’s that they have an amazing sense of taste…
While I agree that algorithms and taste are not compatible (yet), there is undeniably a benefit in using some in certain processes of wine making:
There are machines that can control wine oxygen saturation way better than a person, making the wine oxidation much more controlled.
There are so many processes other than that in which you can exploit algorithms to make better wine, and many of them are not aimed at removing the person from the job but rather to making their work easier.
I worked for a company that made these machines and I can assure you that wineries where these machines were installed made a better wine.
Edit: typos, remember to proofread.
You are describing tools and automated processes predefined by humans, not AI.
You really should have quotes around “better”. The more you manipulate the wine the less stableit us in the longer term and frequently “controlling oxygen levels” means you have a muted wine.
source: 30 years in sales at some of the best wine stores and importers in the USA.
For sure, that makes sense. This company just seems to be conflating quite a bit. Is it AI? No. Are they using a Large Language Model? Kind of. It seems like they put a whole bunch of chemical, soil, and market/tastes metrics into a GPT model, and ran it to fine-tune their process. So, sure, that’s cool, but this all just seems like a silly gimmick. I’d be shocked if this wine was anything special, but then again I’m incredibly suspicious of anyone who slaps an AI label on their product, so who knows.
You can do that with a fucking Arduino and 50 lines of code. It doesn't need AI.
this comma usage makes me feel like I'm having a stroke.