Based Red Dead

I love the fact that the slave owner is not only the one unarmed person you don't lose honor for killing, but you actually gain honor for killing him.

You also don’t lose honor for killing this guy, and can do it right in front of the police without them reacting
https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/Norris_Forsythe
- That guy was, I think, intended as a stand-in for real-life eugenicist and all-round villain Henry Laughlin. Killing him in-game was quite the treat.
- I'm going to remember that for my next playthrough. I always just punched him and made him run away.
- Hmm, I'll have to give that a try
- Because attacking Norris will not affect the player's honor, nor gain the player a wanted level, the player can hogtie Norris and drag him across the map to achieve the Rank 4 Horseman Challenge.

I'm honestly surprised that no one calls this game woke

Because the game sold and reviewed well, so it goes against the narrative of “get woke go broke”
- I think literally every business in the world has managed to tow that line. It's not like the right stopped drinking bud light. Although they probably should have.
What is woke about the game?
- Anti racism is woke. Arthur actively beats the shit out of or yells at anyone who is racist. Arthur is woke. This is a good thing.
- Literally everything mentioned in the 4chan post.
I feel like people might have. I vaguely remember when it first came out that there was someone on youtube uploading videos of them assaulting the woman's suffrage protester and they got taken down after blowing up.

And somehow this game is never part of the examples that some bigots are listing when talking about woke games.

Similarly with Cyberpunk 2077 and Baldur's Gate 3. Both of those games are gay as fuck.

Which ones are they listing? I'm a bit out of the bigotry loop.
- Usually it is any game that has a woman as a main protagonist.
  The biggest examples are:
  Horizon Zero Dawn
  There was "controversy" where devs were releasing promotional material for the game and they released a video where they showcased graphical advancements and they zoomed in really close on the MC and you can see the very thin hair on her face that literally every person has. Some people didn't like that.
  The Last of Us 2 - very masculine woman
  Fable - Not released yet, but the trailer had a woman that is not conventionally attractive.
  Dragon Age Vanguard
  Life is strange
  Intergalactic The Heretic Prophet - new Naughty Dog's game, Black Woman as MC
  This is just from the top of my head.
Cyberpunk got a lot of hate by that crowd leading into release, and they dunked on the release a ton as if it vindicated them.
- It's obvious they've never read any of Mike Pondsmith's stuff if they think gender and sexuality in the Cyberpunk universe is any way at all viewed from a conservative lense.
- I only saw hate on release for bugs and for the way it ran. Not for being woke. Idk

The first time I ran into the KKK in the woods, I was really glad I had a stick of dynamite on me.

It's funny if you watch them for a minute too, their burning cross catches its surroundings on fire, burning many of them to death.
- Interesting. Muuuch more satisfying to blow them up, though.

Much people forget before black slavery there was white slavery... So its just good if there is none slavery.

Not comparable
- Slavery is slavery no matter who does it or whom it's done to.
- This argument is fucking stupid. And racist.
- They're both two types of slavery. They're in the same category. They can be compared.
Are you saying white slavery was as systemic and width spread as black slavery in America? If so I’ve missed a big part of the American slave history.
- No, I'm just saying what I wrote. It is not meant to be an equality or anything else but just a statement that it is good without any slavery no matter what origin, skin color and (even if I am an atheist and despise any religion) religious affiliation. It was also not referring to Americans but a general statement.
before black slavery there was white slavery
bzzt wrong. Portuguese slave traders worked out deals with african tribal leaders in the 1400s. Unless you're going to relabel feudalism as slavery.
- There was slavery before Portugal or feudalism were things. I'd wager slavery might even predate the homo sapien species and probably came soon after a species was able to communicate orders and threats.

There was that other thread talking about Ubisoft games and how theyre putting a black samurai in there. I wrote a comment about how ubisoft marketing is so controversial but then they deliver these milquetoast Ubisoft games.

Just imagine if Farcry 5 actually went the route of RDR2 and had some fucking balls. Instead of try to appeal to both sides.

That's what I don't get, out of millions and hundreds of thousands gamers, how many are actually that stupid and bigoted to rage on anything they don't like? These incel gamers always accuse many games as being woke, but then these games are blockbusters. Devs listen to a loud minority who don't represent the entire community of gamers. The rest are silent majority who, have varying interest of games, like a game for being a good game, not because it is "woke". And hate a bad game, because it is a bad game. It's simple as.
Devs fall into the faux outrage bait from tiny minority of unthinking hordes, and it actually makes them bad than if they just ignore ridiculous baseless cries.
Edit: grammar
- As someone who has been reading about gaming for a long time, it’s the console wars but now that gaming has become mainstream, it became political.
  There has always been drama in gaming, there used to be PlayStation and Xbox fanboys that clearly wanted to be part of a team and for their team to win, it’s what makes it social for some people.
  Then gaming became huge, the industry shifted and now we have a lot more diversity in types of games. So now you have these teams but it’s about other things (I’m on the story mode and no microtransaction team myself).
  One team really benefits right wing media, and that’s the ones complaining about games being woke (and whatever that means). It’s amplified and hence why even though we live in the golden age of gaming choice, we keep hearing this loud minority.

Wow, that was their takeaway from that game? I honestly didn't think about it once the whole playthrough, why are they so desperate to role play racism/sexism?

Oh we're they saying these things like how much they hate Wokeness or something?
I thought this was an endorsement!
- I thought OOP was saying it's a good thing too
- Coming from 4chan, I read it as loser whinging about "woke".

"Women voting? Sure why not. Anyone dumb enough to want to vote should be able to”

I need to fire this game up again when I get home

Now that I think about it, RDR2 is set in the past. I don't think people tend to question the past; the values set by the past is taken for granted today. Anyone who might complain about it makes them look outwardly supportive of regression.

The wild west was largely a myth sold to people who stopped in remote towns and the people there put on a wild west show. So whatever you think of the game, it's based on a myth.

Anon wants to play as Micah

Is it OK to do the opposite?