If you think someone is a troll using the permissive social norms of a community to be unreasonable, don’t interact. That’s the proper response to a troll trying to bait, ignore. If they’re not a troll, just particular, then you’ve avoided the issue by not interacting.
No one is being forced to be here, every choice to be here is voluntary. Every interaction is voluntary, if you choose to interact with someone who upsets you, that’s your choice. If you think the rule of “don’t intentionally misgender people” is unreasonable, you can choose to not be here.
I mean, the most telling part is the instance where most of the triggered users were from. Little hint, it wasn't blahaj or any other queer-friendly instance.
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Fuck those losers that were complaining. The think they're allies, but you earn that title; and they failed super hard when they started complaining and treating someone's pronouns as if it was a reward for good behavior. You use someone's preferred pronouns regardless of how you feel. That's allyship.
If this is about a particular mythical lizard individual, I think it is clear that the problem was not neopronouns... Maybe 10% of dissent was related the fact that "they" is offensive, or not inclusive enough.
I think encouraging murder-suicides and harassment tend to be bannable behaviours, but I suppose if enough "me is victim" is induced by speaking exclusively in third-person (including verbs when referring to one's self), anything is possible.
Also, a bazillion bans over for "gatekeeping" later, this place definitely seems mostly allergic to being inclusive towards anyone not a part of the in-group of defending this blatant troll. Fun, or even slightly humorous pronouns aren't offensive tbh, but forcing your sexual obsession(s) onto non-consenting strangers, online or not, is fucked up. I'm sure there are places for that exclusively, where consent is usually pre-established, to some degree.
I don't like people who make otherkin and neopronoun users both look like complete shitheads. I'm in neither of those groups, but it would be nice if people obviously trolling to make a mockery of both concepts would not be immune to legitimate critisism/grievences.
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I know noone asked, but the probabilty of some level of fuckery akin to this (trolls ruining/dividing the place) is the reason I never made an account on this instance. It isn't anything exclusive to blahaj, just that irl and online queer spaces get trolled a ton, and the resulting aftermath can be not super great.
And if you don’t want to use someones preferred pronouns for some reason… you can just not engage. Simply not referring to someone is always an option!
I have 42069 Ally Points, were can I redeem them? And is this like a Battle-Pass thing or just one time?
Most of them are Bisexual-Ally-Points do I need to convert them?
It's like with misgendering trans people who do shitty things or are shitty people like Ava Tyson or Caitlin Jenner. They might be pieces of shit, but they're still women. You don't get an n word pass just because a Black person does something bad.
"Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean you can revoke their human rights" is the quote I remember with the same energy
the real paradox of tolerance is how quickly "tolerant" people fall back into gender essentialism rhetoric the moment they're presented with anything outside of their comfort zone.
Y'all are getting hit with they/them from me not because of intolerance but because it's my default way of referring to people let alone online.
I don't read comments and posts as: [username] says "yada yada."
I read them as: [random person nearby wanting to engage in small talk] says "yada yada"
I don't read the usernames often which has lead to funny situations where I was having a pleasant conversation in one thread and a shit show in another with the same person.
I engage like I would with small talk with a stranger. We don't need to exchange names to chat, it's not important. Hell I used to talk with a handful of people daily when I rode the city bus. Did that for 2 years. We never learned each others names. I even went to one of their kid's weddings. Was quite the party, still didn't catch their name though.
well with that you’re doing better than a good chunk of the internet 😆 i think unless it comes up in conversation, it’s totes fine to revert to they/them especially for short chit-chat
Disclaimer: I’m so far away from Blahaj’s demographic I don’t even know why I’m commenting…
Random internet person called Ada devotes their time, bandwidth, expertise, server etc to help random netizens interact with each other. Sets some rules - their space, their rules. Reasonable.
Don’t like the rules? Either fuck off or… find a workaround? “That person, their, you” should cover most things ( and are suitably neutral to not cause unnecessary offence) if you - a bit like me - sometimes struggle with all these new words and concepts. Failing that - stop visiting is always an option. What more is there to say?
I totally agree but would also like to point out that "their" and "you" are not accepted by either of the subjects of this drama.
If that is true (which somehow I don’t doubt) I think those two people might need to be Three Billy Goats Gruffed out of here - but it’s not my space to make that call.
Failing that? Perhaps an intervention might help.
Your outsider’s perspective is so valuable 😆 thanks for sharing
Also silly because it’s such a small ask, it’s not like she is saying trolls are getting a free pass here, she’s just saying “hey we’re not gonna allow you to be the judge, jury, and executioner in the comments because that kind of diatribe is literally the stuff this community is designed to minimize—we ask you to just disengage completely (or find a workaround) rather than open the floodgates for more of the same discussion and abuse that our users deal with every day. If you suspect real trolling or damage, just report them and our crack team of mods will deal with it in a way that doesn’t involve any misgendering or harassment.”
First of all, thanks to you folk for allowing me to walk in and have a look around.
Yes - it seems such a simple ask. Play by the rules; or don’t play at all.
A few people I work with occasionally had real problems in this field. I discovered that calling a Portuguese Spanish, Bangladeshis Indian and Poles German soon focused their minds on accuracy of language. I’m an (adopted) Welsh person and have spent about two percent of my entire life explaining that I’m not English. I suppose it’s a parable of sorts…
They are called pronoumpires; They get their energy from using the wrong pronouns on people.
That ruling essentially denies them their feeding ground.
'Tis a silly word but I like it.
Don't know how I'd say it though lol
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