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Special counsel Jack Smith drops election subversion case against Donald Trump

www.cnn.com Special counsel Jack Smith drops election subversion and classified documents cases against Donald Trump | CNN Politics

Special counsel Jack Smith is dropping the federal election subversion and the mishandling of classified documents cases against President-elect Donald Trump, seeking the cases’ dismissal in court filings Monday.

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Special counsel Jack Smith drops election subversion and classified documents cases against Donald Trump

www.cnn.com /2024/11/25/politics/trump-special-counsel-jack-smith/index.html

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Well, if there was any doubt there is one law for the rich & well connected, and an entirely different law for the 'plebes', this put that deep in the ground...

Someone should go rip that blindfold off of any 'Blind Justice' statues, it is just gaslighting at this point.
- This is Smith seeing his hands tied because Trump ran out the clock and then enough assholes put him back in office where the Supreme Court and DOJ policy blocks him from being prosecuted for [at least] the next 4 years. It also states that come January 2029 he can refile charges on a then dementia ravaged 82 year old man.
  
  Lmao, thinking its still going to be legal to investigate trump in 4 years
. “This outcome is not based on the merits or strength of the case against the defendant.”

We know, but we also know that Trump and his sycophants will use the argument that Trump "won" and it was baseless, political persecution, etc.
- The not prosecuting a sitting president is a shitty policy written to avoid baseless lawsuits and applied to help fascists rise to power.
- The way I see this, they are stopping the proceedings so Trump's AG won't be able to end them officially, so they might be able to resume in four years.
Key detail: they're not dropping it because they're giving up, the judge dismissed it without prejudice, which means that in 4 years they can pick the case back up. Under a Trump DoJ the case would likely have ended with prejudice, closing it permanently.
- Even more motivation for Trump to abolish term limits.
  
  He can't himself since it's spelled out in the constitution in the 22nd amendment.
  
  So tl;dr it would need 3/4 of the states to repeal that. More detail than that, but that's what it boils down to.
- A distinction without a difference
At least it's a dismissal without prejudice which leaves the door open for charges to be brought back once Trump is no longer in office and as long as the statute of limitation hasn't run out.
- leaves the door open for charges to be brought back once Trump is no longer in office
  
  Assuming his lard-ass lives that long.
- I can't say I'm feeling overly optimistic about anything worthwhile happening with this case after 9 years, when they failed to move forward in nearly 5
  
  How is "less than 4" now "nearly 5"?
- You know how the courts love putting rich old white dudes behind bars, right?
  
  Assuming of course we don’t end up with a Republican dictatorship after this presidency, then it’s all meaningless anyway.
- A glimmer of hope, but at least, of the extremely limited options, this one leaves a shred of hope behind.
  
  Still fucking awful and a complete condemnation of the justice system in the US, but POC in the States have known that for years, now it's just whitey getting shown how fucking biased it is to privilege and wealth.
  
  A lot of us whiteys already knew
- Until Trump’s DOJ decides to re-dismiss with prejudice.
  
  That can only be done if the case is presented again. You can't dismiss something that doesn't exist.
- Who is going to stop Trump from pardoning himself?
  
  He cannot pardon himself on a dismissed case.
  
  Jack Smith, apparently.
Legal justice has become a pipedream. The only options with any real chance of happening are vigilante justice or no justice.
I mean, we all saw this coming.

It still feels weird that you can’t jail someone in 4 years even if you prove they are guilty.

Americans should be rioting in the streets, let him serve from jail.
Feckless.
- I want this to be literally the only word on Merrick Garlands Wikipedia page.
Fucking pussy
- I dont think you understand the situation.
  The DOJ cannot try a sitting president as matter of policy. If he continued the trial against policy then there is a good chance more judge delays and stays push it out until trump is president and he makes it go away, especially if he gets it dismissed with prejudice. If he drops it now it has the chance to be re-tried again when trump ~~peacefully gives up power~~ leaves office in 4 years time.
  
  Legal eagle on youtube did a whole video explaining the situation in depth if you want a qualified explanation.
Biden should have sent Seal Tim Six to Mar-A-Lago

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