We had no problems with vaccines or election integrity until Trump. It’s all manufactured nonsense.

Republicans stole the election in 2000, they are just dialing it up.

Could you imagine the shitstorm if Democrats did this?

The problems with vaccines started with andrew wakefield. Republicans have been pushing for voter ID laws for decades.

none of this started with trump.

Yeah
2012:
2024:
95% of Republicans for voter ID hasn't changed before/after Trump
- Why are democrats not as supportive of ID laws? I would assume it's obvious you need an ID to vote, or am I missing something here?
Wakefield was way late to the game.
This is from the 1890s.
Those were backed and funded by the Kremlin.
As was Trump.
Edit:
https://www.state.gov/russias-pillars-of-disinformation-and-propaganda-report/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anti-vax-movement-russian-trolls-fueled-anti-vaccination-debate-in-us-by-spreading-misinformation-twitter-study/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/russian-misinformation-seeks-to-confound-not-convince/
- ...
  do you have any evidence that andrew wakedield's 1998 paper, in the lancet, was backed and funded by the kremlin? That doesn't seem to be in any of the contemporary reporting on the paper?
  blaming russia without evidence for all things is the one thing that did start during trump's campaign.

I recommend that you do not touch the diaper.

The antivax crowd is not just trumpers. I’m not sure how much this has changed recently, but 10 to 20 years ago, I knew plenty of liberal college-educated suburban soccer moms who believed in that shit.

but 10 to 20 years ago, I knew plenty of liberal college-educated suburban soccer moms who believed in that shit.
And now they're probably Trump voters.
It's the crunchy to alt right pipeline and unfortunately it's real.
- And they were all vaccinated and they're fine. Though if they're Trump supporters the argument can be made that vaccines made them stupid.
They're not all MAGAts, but they are all anti-empiricist conspiracy theorists, so it's only a matter of time before they land on Trump or run straight past it to Nazism. Surely you've seen this for yourself.

We did have problems with vaccines before Trump

not to this scale, not even at the height of the pre-dinglebutt antivaxx movement.

These problems all existed as fringe coalitions before Trump came along. He just brought them to the forefront of the GOP platform because they were convenient for him and his cult instantly assimilated them.

Yeah, OP is simply ignorant. Jenny McCarthy posts are strewn through the comments, and here's a bunch of democratic leaders talking about election results:
https://youtu.be/OjnX4IUt_eo?si=c30DDGdNXSZ9HRHF
Trump definitely made everything more extreme, though.

Here's an article on the history of anti-vaccination movements with sources.

"The Leicester Demonstration March of 1885 was one of the most notorious anti-vaccination demonstrations. There, 80,000-100,000 anti-vaccinators led an elaborate march, complete with banners, a child’s coffin, and an effigy of Jenner."

"...surveys of medical providers in the UK in the late 1970s found they were reluctant to recommend the immunization to all patients."

"Although the time periods have changed, the emotions and deep-rooted beliefs—whether philosophical, political, or spiritual—that underlie vaccine opposition have remained relatively consistent since Edward Jenner introduced vaccination."

80,000-100,000 anti-vaccinators led an elaborate march, complete with banners, a child’s coffin, and an effigy of Jenner.
Kylie or Kendall?
since Edward Jenner introduced vaccination."
Ah ok.. I bet his sisters helped, though!

This is a joke headline, right? Jenny McCarthy and hanging-chads.

I absolutely blame Jenny McCarthy for this, and maybe Oprah (I think Oprah gave her the platform to speak), but Jenny never came out and said "I was wrong about this and the doctor totally lied about his results and this has all been debunked" and now the US is in shambles because she's a fucking idiot.
- Throwing out ballots because of hanging chads is ABSOLUTELY an issue with election integrity. How much integrity can an election have if votes are thrown out arbitrarily so an unpopular candidate wins???
  And that election would've changed things today. People drowning in Japan, Spain, North Carolina to these crazy floods. AMOC collapse has begun. We are so fucked and that was like, our chance. And Republicans and oil suckers decided to kill us all and Noah's Ark us... in the 70s. When they were told this would happen.
Hanging chads were a tiny blip on the radar in the general story of the 2000 election. Trump's had 100 scandals more noteworthy than hanging chads.
- SCOTUS gave the election away because of them and the entire recount situation was manufactured to make it seem like there could be no consensus.
- And yet in terms of lives lost, the 2000 election going to Bush killed pretty much 8 billion people plus most megafauna. Climate change had the last laugh after all.

I like how the diapers are on the outside

Is OP young or are they deliberately ignoring US history?

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/12/666812854/the-florida-recount-of-2000-a-nightmare-that-goes-on-haunting

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/14/16640082/donna-brazile-warren-bernie-sanders-democratic-primary-rigged

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/2/16599036/donna-brazile-hillary-clinton-sanders

https://daily.jstor.org/the-deadly-bilibid-prison-vaccine-trials/

The long and tortured history of bad American medicine and crooked elections is a reminder of the crimes of privatization, eugenics, and white nationalism.
The irony is how often these crimes are invokes as an excuse to deny health care provision via public institutions, to encourage further eugenics policies, and to facilitate white nationalist control of the country.
How many times am I going to see a MAGA Republican denounce Medicaid on the grounds that its too nice to black people or obstruct ballot access to college voters, on the grounds that these systems are corrupt?
How many times am I going to see liberals insist "This is just what people want" as they tear up another health care public option and let the GOP further stack the SCOTUS?
- Are you able to have reasoned discussion or are you only able to parrot reactionary speech when you get tilted?
This is like like pointing out how bad the drizzle was before the hurricane hit.
- Yeah, it's kinda like we didn't fall out of a coconut tree, and everything exists in context. It's kinda like these past incidents inspired modern day people to abuse these loopholes. And btw, Gore losing the election killed 8 billion people due to climate change, so it was significantly worse that what Trump did in terms of impact.

It has always been amazing how the Trump crowd are actively going about victimhood culture and never catch on their leader always being the victim in every situation he is in.

Every accusation is projection.

Trump's been bought and sold more times than a vintage Pokemon trading card.
For some reason, people love to fixate on Putin while ignoring MBS, JP Morgan, and Elon Musk.

Not true, we had anti-vaxxera long before Trump, of both the vaccines cause autism and crunchy hippy varieties. The former just mutated into an aggressive new form after being exposed to a novel virus and consequently a novel vaccine.

Are you Putin me on?

Why is he so bizarrely thin and with gigantic hands?