I'm watching DS9 for (mostly) the first time, and I have to say...
I'm watching DS9 for (mostly) the first time, and I have to say...
Keiko is the worst villain in the entire Alpha quadrant.
That is all.
While it's fun to poke at Keiko, I think Winn Adami is a worse villain.
Also: Gul Dukat is the best antagonist in Trek.I just love to hate those two, so the actors certainly played their parts very well.
Wouldn’t you agree, my child?
(You read this in her voice, didn’t you?)
grits teeth
I swear, every fuckin time.
She is fantastic in those roles!
Yes, but Keiko’s voice is like nails on the chalkboard to me.
And it was a great early episode where Keiko and Winn had their conflict regarding the school curriculum.
On Keiko's end, it showed that she had to look for a place on the station and that she was making sacrifices for Miles. It also showed her beliefs the lens in which Federation civilians would look at religion.
On Winn's end, you see her use of religion for political gain by turning a nothing issue into a conflict on the station. She is acting as a bad priest, using her role mainly for political gain.
In the hands of the prophets is a great episode that is often overlooked. I wish keiko had gotten more opportunities like this to stand up and shine.
I just watched "Looking for Par'Mach" - unless something extra bad is coming up, Keiko is far more horrible...!
I'll have you know Dukat is a saint. He did so much for the Bajorans, just ask him
Honestly, I think the biggest problem is that Colm Meaney and Rosalind Chao have negative chemistry. They probably cast her in TNG thinking that O'Brien was a second-tier supporting character, and that she had good "nervous bride" energy for her first appearance in "Data's Day," and that would probably be about it for the character. It's not the actor's fault that a fictional pairing that wasn't very well thought-out on the writers' and casting director's part didn't turn out to be strong enough to survive as a primary plot driver.
That said... I would have loved to see Miles and Keiko go through an amicable divorce. They virtually did, between Keiko basically throwing Miles and Kira together during their pregnancy and Keiko's long-term journeys to Bajor. It wouldn't have been that much further to just have them realize that they'd grown apart and agree to separate, and it could be a way for Star Trek to explore a subject that a lot of people had real-life experience with. I don't suppose that mid- to late-90s Star Trek producers would have gone for it, but there was some real narrative potential there.
The food-based psychological torture she puts Miles through is entertaining at least
Yes. And her (the actresses) role in Three Body Problem is like that characters development. If you want some Keiko head cannon, bc.. while some femme baddies were written really well (like Win, probably only Win) there's a hesitation, a lack of commitment to the thought project of darkness in a loving mother, doting wife.
All I remember from Keiko in DS9 is she preparing algae while Miles pined for some mutton and potatoes. Perhaps a rewatch is in order.
Only at early season 2 of my forgot-everything rewatch of ds9. She can’t be that bad, can she?
When I was a teen I thought she was just awful, but rewatching when I have a spouse and kids I see she’s trying to make the best of a difficult situation and they are a realistically flawed couple.
You'll get there, don't worry.
