It's coming for yea

Remote work also makes sense and they just fucking ignore that.

Commercial real estate isn't worth nearly as much without people going to and from work everyday.
Healthcare for all makes sense in NUMEROUS WAYS and they won't give us that

you don't climb the corporate ladder and attain to c suite positions of authority by being the type of person who think employees even deserve 2 days off, let alone 3. these are also the type of people who demand that you answer the phone/emails between 5pm and 9am

Employers: have you considered 6 days?

It's a deal! Six days off, one on.
I did that shit. 6 days, you find out your start time about 12 hours before it happens each day (make sure you're up to get the phone call about what time to come in, it could vary by 5 hours). Your work day could be from 4 hours to potentially more than 14.
I moved to a 5 day position at the same company.... 60 hours a week. 5 12s. Hourly, but no overtime pay.
Trucking is great isn't it
Plenty of people work 7 days now. Big profits for the top, poor compensation for the bottom.
Welcome to Greece🥲
Insightful. Accurate. Gdi.
Schools do that 😔

This is only for white collar work. Every time I see this there is never any consideration for blue collar work. Factories would benefit from seven day work weeks, more time producing not less.

Not that I want it at all... We tried to argue for just 4 days weeks in the summer when it gets to be 95° and like 75° dew point and they still said "absolutely not, we need to ship 5 days a week. We have guys doing overtime why would we do less?"

Factories suck...

I mean, a four day work week still benefits blue collar jobs, though it's understandably more difficult to implement this in a some blue collar workspaces, and I dont claim to have the answer for how to do it by any means.
Factories would benefit from seven day work weeks, more time producing not less.
Factories benefit from higher efficiency, and less downtime, which can be achieved with more employees, working less, being less tired, more satisfied with their pay and benefits, and having fewer accidents which interrupt production.
It can be done, but other systems also need changing to help it along.
- I think the problem there is that there's a lot of workplaces looking for extra people. Losing 1/5th of your workforce, but not financially is how I assume employers look at it.
  The fact people are more efficient probably doesn't mean more efficient than working 8 extra hours to them.
  I could really do with a 4day workweek. And I don't mean working 40h in 4 days.
What about rotating 3 and 4 day shifts for twice as many employees? Then you get 7 days of productivity and nobody is getting burned out/making an unsafe work environment?
Maybe they should hire more people to fill in the gaps to those who leave for the week after 4 days. Everyone deserves 4 day work weeks at minimum.
- That would cost them more so it's a non-starter. In manufacturing you're not a human, you're another tool. You don't consider the wellbeing or happiness of your tools. :(

Imagine how boomers brains will melt when the four day week starts roughly when they all hit retirement. I would take that as consolation price for the failing pension systems.

As if arguments matter.

Now if possible legal and contract things allow it get fixed and a number of employers start to offer this and pull in valuable workers... That might make the others nervous.

It's already happening, at least in my social circle. People changing to four day weeks or even changing jobs when their employer doesn't offer reduced work weeks.
It's a slow trickle but it's there.
- Indeed, this is how the change will be made.
  Dumb question: how does this work? Is a person paid the same for less hours? What if they are hourly?

The main opposition is not employers. As long as they maintain profit, they don’t care and that has long been shown as possible .

The main opponent to this will be government, who don’t want people to have to much free time on their hands, in case they call out inequalities and injustice.

The trick is how to make this work with 24/7 businesses. Now we have a set of 5 day workers that have full benefits and 2 day workers that have partial benefits. If the full benefit workers only work 4 days and the partial benefits workers now work 3, they will be pushing for full benefits as well. That means more cost to the business.

its the only real path to 24/7. As it stands now you can run 24/7 but you won't. weekends will never run like weekdays and its not for a lack of demand on the weekends. 4 day work week is primed for a two shift solution with one day where the shifts can collaborate.
- In my case it's a security job, so it's not like you need twice as many people one day. But I can see how that would work for certain industries.
4 12s one week, 3 12s the other, 4 shifts. I used to have that at an old job and it was kind of nice having 2 days off in the middle of the week and every other weekend having three days off. It would be Tuesday,Wednesday, Then Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Then Thursday, Friday.
I suppose you could do this on 8 hours and have 6 shifts instead of only 4. So only a 28 hour work week on average 24/32.
Maybe dont tie healthcare to jobs? That is the most expensive 'benefit' they offer.
- Agreed, but that makes it a MUCH harder problem to solve.

Iaal and I would fucking kill for just a standard 40 hour, 5 day work week at this point 😓

Omg, I laughed so boisterously at this. I mean loud.

And also a minimum of 6 weeks paid vacation, and also they get recorded as clocked in on those days so employers can't easily discriminate against employees that actually use that time.

My direct supervisor would love that at least.

Corporate real estate companies too especially for in the office