For proof that this thread is just people justifying what they know as better somehow, look no further than Canada.
We do cooking temps in Fahrenheit, weather in Celsius. Human weights in pounds, but never pounds and oz. Food weights in grams, cooking weights in pounds and oz. Liquid volume in millilitres and litres, but cooking in cups, teaspoons and tablespoons. Speed & distance in kilometres, heights in feet and inches.
Try and give this any consistency and people will look at you like you’re fucked. The next town is 100km over, I’m 5ft 10in, a can of soda is 355ml, it’s 21c out and I have the oven roasting something at 400f. Tell me it’s 68f out and I will fight you.
People like what they are used to, and will bend over backwards to justify it. This becomes blatantly obvious when you use a random mix of units like we do, because you realize that all that matters is mental scale.
If Fahrenheit is “how people feel” then why are feet useful measurements of height when 90% of people are between 4ft and 6ft? They aren’t. You just know the scale in your head, so when someone says they’re 7ft tall you say “dang that’s tall”. That’s it.
By that logic, Americans should use km/h instead of mph. Going 0-100 is much better than 0-60. For the same reason you keep telling us why Fahrenheit is so much more intuitive.
Once again... the classic argument of:
"Well, I grew up using this system, and I'm used to the system. I have built an internal intuition for how hot and cold the temperature is. I am used to >100 being hot! 40 is not hot!"
Well then. I grew up using celcius and... "IT'S FOURTY FUCKING ONE DEGREES OUTSIDE?" sounds just as hot.
Sounds like a great time to propose my system of temperature: Super Celsius. I'll connect it to the freezing and boiling points of water just like Celsius, but while freezing remains at 0, boiling is now 1000. Get ready for a nice mild day of 250.
it's not about what makes more sense: what makes more sense is what you use everyday and is natural to you. 40+ C is freaking hot because when you experience it, it's freaking hot.
It's about what the entire rest of the world is using as a standard.
In Ali Baba and the 40 Thieves, the number of thieves wasn't really necessarily 40. The number was likely just chosen because 40 was an exaggerated number, much like when we'd say "I've told you a hundred million times". So 40 as a shorthand for "a huge amount" seems fitting in celcius.
Forty-one sounds insanely hot as an outside temperature if that's the standard you're used to. And that's the thing that the Fahrentards refuse to wrap their head around.
I present the temperature scale that I made up- the Human Scale (H°)
I thought about the Fahrenheit vs Celsius debate, and I think both have practical uses, however I think combined they could make a very practical scale.
Fahrenheit: while my American sensibilities agree that 100° is a good marker for what % of my patience is used up to cut a bitch, I think a similar place would be the average human body temperature. For this reason, 100°H = 98.6°F . It's not a perfect match, but it can still give us the satisfaction of "IT'S 100°!?" while having practical implications for medical uses "your body temperature is 102°, 2° warmer than average".
Celsius: I think this scale makes a ton of sense for colder temperatures. When the thermometer reads 0°, that's when you can expect snow. For this reason, 0°H = 0°C.
The conversation rates are:
H = (F-32) × 1.5
H= C × 2.7
More precise is
H = (F-32) × 1.501501501...
H = C × 2.7027027027...
While using the freezing point of water and the average human body temperature seem like inconsistent and arbitrary benchmarks, my goal is less about consistency and more about practicality for everyday use.
But really it is much better for human temperatures.
It's just intuitive, 0F is 100% cold, and 100F is 100% hot.
When the dry bulb gets above 100F, wind only cools you down by sweat evaporation, and when the wet bulb gets above 100F, even that can't cool you down, and you will die if you don't get to a cooler or drier environment.
Behold! "Disagree Degrees". We're going to combine the best traits of the other units. No more searching for the stupid little degree character in the character map. D for degrees or disagrees - whatever, I don't give a shit.
0D = 0K (Like Kelvin, no negatives! That's so dumb!)
0.4D = -40 C and -40 F
1D = Water Freezing point (Need a consistent point of scale)
10D = "Pleasant temperature"
100D = Kind of hot
500D = Really hot for people (>40C or >100F) "It's like 500 disagrees out there!"
1000D= Water boiling (To match the freezing temp)
1,000,000,000,000D = Surface of the sun
Good luck on the math converting to other units, this temperature scale isn't about being useful for nerd stuff, it's all about appealing to our emotions.
I think the reason people are saying that Fahrenheit "feels" right is because we use a base 10 number system. 1-10 and 0%-100% feel right to us because of this. If you somehow knew nothing about each temperature unit, but you did know base 10, I feel like Fahrenheit would be more intuitive. Obviously if you grew up with Celsius that would feel normal.
Disclaimer: I feel like the US needs to adopt metric already. It's so much better.
“Bigger number is more better” also explains American sports where you get 3 points for running a bit and then play stops for an ad break and the national anthem.
I'm gonna be honest. I love Celsius for the the whole perfect math reasons with calories and water based measurement...
But the curve on temps is a pain when all the nice temperatures require using a decimal place to decide just how slightly above or below pleasant it is but cold is basically everything from 16°C to -30°C
And then decimals really matter when hotter than pleasant temps.
Whole rounded integers are just so vastly different depending how high or low you are in Celsius.
would someone explain to me why whenever european people are confronted with the idea of the imperial system their brain seems to shutdown into a slow state of oxygen preservation? I genuinely don't understand it.
"40c in f is 104????" yeah, round it, its 100f, you think we specify to the Nth degree here?
"86f doesn't really make sense" yeah, round it. 90 is pretty close, and who boy 90s are pretty hot.
"why isn't 50f the perfect temperature" you're literally just applying an arbitrary point on something entirely arbitrary. But ok. (also it is the perfect temperature range between 50-70f)
"how is -17c and 37c cold and hot???" literally round it bro, -20 and 40c are right there wow look at that now it makes more sense! Im pretty sure this commenter is aussie or something, so in their defense, anything under 70f is cold for them. Either that or they don't wear clothes, ever, because they're calculating the coldness with no clothing. for some reason.
"yeah but we also think of things in relation to the temperature of water, like freezing is when shit is icy, and also the relation to the boiling point" brother, water boils in fahrenheit as well (212f, but again, you're going to shocked by this one, you can round it down to 200f, wow look at that, it's like, pretty close.) sure the freezing point is still higher, but you really only get freezes here at super prolonged periods of just under 30f weather, or really cold snaps that stick around a bit. generally snow in 30f weather is, not really a thing, the ground is still warm enough it melts. ice doesn't form unless it's like, close to 0.
guys, i promise, it's not this hard. Just, think about it a little bit, please. You're killing me here!
this is so true, but the thing the celsiouds won't understand, that the farenheitoids haven't realized, is that the celsius users die (not literally) in heat of about 85 f which for any fahrenheit user is, literally a nice summer day.
EDIT: i'm making a joke about the UK heat waves, since people don't seem to realize that.
Freezing water at 0 and boiling water as 100 simplifies things a lot but also doesn't make sense when it comes to things like weather, like, what am I supposed to wear outside when it's 23 degrees?