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Ukraine to present 'victory plan' to US next month, Zelensky says

www.bbc.com Ukraine to present 'victory plan' to US next month, Zelensky says

US presidential candidates Kamala Harris and Donald Trump would also be shown the plan, President Zelensky says.

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Mr. Zelenskyy, please show a different set of plans to Trump. He is a traitor to the US democracy, to its government, to its people, and countries in NATO.
- Why should he talk with Trump? He is an ordinary civilian.
  
  for disinformation. if he shows a different plan to trump, it will end up in russia and cause confusion
  
  Actually he's a convicted felon
  
  "It may sound too ambitious for some, but it is an important plan for us," he added, saying that he would also show the plan to both US presidential candidates Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
  
  To hedge his bets. He can't let the future of Ukraine be entirely decided by a US election that's out of his control.
May it come to fruition. Slava Ukraini
- lol
  
  Is this like the time my mom said "Grandpa doesn't have much time to live. LOL" because she thought it stood for "Lots Of Love"?
  
  lol
  
  ?
Trump is gonna run off and tell his buddy Putin
- Don't worry, they'll dumb it down so Trump can fit it in his tiny little mind, I'm sure, so the end leak of intelligence to Putin will be: "Ukraine says they're going to BIGLY WIN! WOW! Very few people know that!"
  
  "You give me big go booms. I go boom the bad guys you hate. Major winning happens. You take all credit. 'Very smart and brave of Trump to give Ukraine all those go booms.' Everyone says so"
- I wonder if Ukraine expects that, and feeds Trump misinformation to trick Putin?
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I hope it works but honestly I don’t see any path for Ukraine to recover all of its territory at this point. Barring some major shakeup that causes Russian resistance to collapse.
- Haven't they been crushing it though?
  
  The invasion of Russia has given them at least small gains for the first time in a while but it really doesn’t change the overall situation as of right now. The territory gained is very small compared to what they’ve lost.
  
  Russia would have just continue letting them gain more and more territory until they have enough for some kind of exchange, but that seems unlikely. They were caught off guard, but now that they’re defending, further advances will become difficult and it’s likely to soon reach another stalemate like the other fronts.
- You do realize they took over a good chunk of russia in less than a week right? With the aid package and kamala having a really good chance at winning, ukraine is sitting pretty good.
  
  A tiny area of strategically insignificant territory.
  
  Look at the size of the territory gained compared with what they’ve lost: https://images.jifo.co/21540781_1723737029035.svg
  
  It’s an interesting gambit but like I said in my initial comment, the Russian resistance would need to essentially collapse for them to gain enough territory to make some kind of exchange for what they’ve lost. Unless they continue to gain ground at the same rate for the next year I don’t see this changing the overall situation which has been near stalemate on the main front for over a year now.
  
  I don’t see Kamala’s policy being meaningfully different from Biden and it’s far from sure she wins. Trump will almost certainly cut aid and make the situation substantially worse.

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