We coulda had Bernie...

Voting the lesser evil still leads to evil in the long run.

You know I hear people say this and and yet the Democratic Party is further to the left than it was under Bill Clinton. So how does it follow? I mean I hear people say stuff like we keep moving further to the right and the Republicans certainly are, but I see a Democratic party that's for gay rights and that didn't use to exist. I see a Democratic Party that's that's talking about higher taxes on the wealthy and trade regulations and consumer protection Acts. None of that was true in the '90s. In the 90s the Democrats said the era of big government is over. Now Democrats are supporting good government policies. We can certainly support better government policies, and I personally would like to see them go much further , but I can't see a scenario in which the Democratic party isn't further left than they were.

This does not logically follow.

I'm starting to suspect that Taylor Swift doesn't even care what we think!

I remember!

In exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised… This victory fund agreement, however, had been signed in August 2015, just four months after Hillary announced her candidacy and nearly a year before she officially had the nomination.

Emphasis mine. It was a captured field, with a performative primary - Hillary/‘s campaign abused their position against a broke DNC and elevated herself above all others.

This is why young people need to vote in every election especially the local ones, even the ones that seem insignificant like a school board election. The only way for a Bernie to win a primary is if such a candidate is not an outlier. The entire party needs to move to the left and that starts from the ground up. Since people need to get exposed to more left wing politicians so left wing ideology becomes more normalized and at the moment it's not.

When young people vote you get people like AOC and Omar into office. The only way to get a Bernie elected is if there are more AOCs and Omars filling seats in local, state and the federal government. From the school board all the way up to the Senate.

You never really know what you of until you don't of it anymore

A lot of retrospective handwringing forgets this, or the vile comments that came out during Bill’s multiple sexual assault allegations.

Hillary was not the right candidate to fight Trump, Jeb Bush more likely. After Obama, returning to an establishment candidate was a mistake, and I don’t care if “it’s her turn” after stepping aside in 2008. Politics has real consequences for people who don’t vacation in the Hamptons.

Yeah but she paved the way for ISIS with such girl power

Way more pro Israel rhetoric that any Biden comment but he then doubles down with lots of anti Palestine comments.

If the choice is between genocide and genocide + fascism, and there is no viable option 3 without genocide, then the argument is still embrace the genocide or democracy ends. The alternative is embrace genocide and who really needs all this democracy anyway?

Yeah I'm not sure how to take this post. The image is clearly both-sides-ism but the text of OPs post on it appears to be calling that bad.

This posting format makes sense in specific subreddit/communities like /leopardsatemyface or /whitepeopletwitter. But here it just makes it unclear what the intended message is.

If we manage to have any more non-sham elections.

The problem is fascists, but it is also compounded by neolib Democrats never reducing government authority either, but often even strengthening it, knowing full well that power can easily be seized by the extreme right at any time.

As someone who voted 3rd party in 2016 and regrets it. While you are technically correct, the last 8 years have shown that there is so much more on the line than what I was protesting against with my 3rd party vote. I didn't like Hillary Clinton's positions on war. And sure, my vote probably wouldn't have mattered all that much as I live in a very red state, but every time the Supreme Court does some bullshit, I feel a bit of regret that I didn't use my vote to support the best candidate who actually had a chance.

Nah, Bernie deserved better than the backroom deals that kept him from ever having a fair chance at getting the nomination.

Millennials and Zoomers turning out at population share at the primary would have made it a landslide for him. They couldn't even do that much, nevermind the easy dominating overrepresented share they could take with all the boomers catching the MAGA brainrot.

First off, Gen Z was born between 1995 and 2012, which means only a small % of them could even vote in 2016 (1995-1998) and 2020 (1995-2002). Even 2020 we’re talking less than like 30% of the generation was even old enough to vote. In 2016 it was like 12-15%? So I would take a step back for a second and think through this blanket statement of yours on that alone. 6 years out of 17 won’t be able to vote this coming election, so we’re talking (napkin math) like 70% of the generation is even eligible in 2024. I hope my point has been sufficiently made here.

Second, why is it the responsibility of Gen Z and Millennials to save everyone else, or rather - why is it our fault when other people vote for Trump/someone else in the primaries? Why didn’t Gen X vote for him? Why are boomers off the hook? It’s not Gen Z and Millenials’ collective fault that other people voted for Trump. That’s absurd.

This just gives me flashbacks to Republicans in 2016 essentially saying “well you forced me to vote for Trump when you all [insert social issue they are mad about]” as if they aren’t responsible for their own actions and it’s everyone else’s fault they voted for the bigoted conman.

We could have had Bernie if the NY Board of Elections didn't purge all newly registered Democrats despite complying with the October 9th deadline. They erased over 120,000 in Brooklyn alone. The fix was in.