Any explanation for those of us who are not gun enthusiasts?
So, a derringer is a small pistol, usually with two shots, made for close-range self-defense. Normally they use, well, pistol rounds, like a 9mm, which has like, 700 joules of energy or someshit like that. When you fire a lightweight gun, you definitely get some kickback from it, even with a pistol round.
A 45-70 is a big-ass rifle round with something like 4000 joules of energy behind it. You uh, you put that in a little derringer and pull the trigger, both you and your target are gonna feel it.
Above PugJesus talks about the energy of the round being very large. There's more to it.
The derringer design lacks any technology to absorb and extend the impulse of recoil, most importantly the slide found on any modern semi automatic.
Not only is there extreme recoil, there's also absolutely nothing to help the shooter deal with it.
Do they typically even use something with as much energy as a 9mm? I thought they were typically smaller rounds like 38 or 22, since it's a close range gun?
I really don't know anything about them, would be interesting to see a chart of them.
modern loadings do that, but the original loadings were black powder and had energy comparable with today's 5.56. 5.56 still has much less recoil because it's lighter
Thanks :)
Why the %^&* does that huge bullet even fit and work in that pistol? From the pic it's obvious the 45-70 is so much wider than the 9mm
Make me wonder how it would compare to a 410 round. I have shot those and they were not fun in a pistol. That pistol was considerably heavier then a Darringer too
Holy shit, the unburned powder on the ballistics gel block!
This one should bookend that rifle with the crazy long barrel they keep sawing pieces off of while monitoring muzzle velocity.
Very big bullet, much recoil. Very ouch. They're rough to shoot in a heavy rifle, there would be consequences shooting then out of a light pistol.
Never bring a knife to a bomb fight.
So how do I get an Idea to the Helldivers devs? They did the grenade pistol, what about an derringer with an AC-8 round. Better ve wearing explosive res armor
Both shoes off. That means dead right?
Actually what's the cons
Every bone in your hand and wrist broken? I carry a .45-70 rifle when I hike and it kicks like a mule.
EDIT: This is what I carry (Marlin 1895 SBL). Same ammo. Notice the slight size difference, and this is meant to be compact and easy to carry.
And probably some severe bruising to the face, if not broken bones there too.
Had a friend that had a single shot, it was basically a tube with plastic stock. I shot it once. It left a bruise. Any big cartridge I've shot since has been from a heavy gun.
Any explanation for those of us who are not gun enthusiasts?
So, a derringer is a small pistol, usually with two shots, made for close-range self-defense. Normally they use, well, pistol rounds, like a 9mm, which has like, 700 joules of energy or someshit like that. When you fire a lightweight gun, you definitely get some kickback from it, even with a pistol round.
A 45-70 is a big-ass rifle round with something like 4000 joules of energy behind it. You uh, you put that in a little derringer and pull the trigger, both you and your target are gonna feel it.
This also might help put it into perspective
Above PugJesus talks about the energy of the round being very large. There's more to it.
The derringer design lacks any technology to absorb and extend the impulse of recoil, most importantly the slide found on any modern semi automatic.
Not only is there extreme recoil, there's also absolutely nothing to help the shooter deal with it.
Do they typically even use something with as much energy as a 9mm? I thought they were typically smaller rounds like 38 or 22, since it's a close range gun?
I really don't know anything about them, would be interesting to see a chart of them.
modern loadings do that, but the original loadings were black powder and had energy comparable with today's 5.56. 5.56 still has much less recoil because it's lighter
Thanks :)
Why the %^&* does that huge bullet even fit and work in that pistol? From the pic it's obvious the 45-70 is so much wider than the 9mm
Make me wonder how it would compare to a 410 round. I have shot those and they were not fun in a pistol. That pistol was considerably heavier then a Darringer too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i89cMnfxXy0&t=39
lmao the absolute madman
Sounds about right
Jesus, he almost hit himself in the head with the recoil his arm snapped so far back
Kentucky Ballistics did a whole video on this gun.
https://youtu.be/vJQBbUIFIvU?si=AkXJ-aFCJUA5E9TA
Holy shit, the unburned powder on the ballistics gel block!
This one should bookend that rifle with the crazy long barrel they keep sawing pieces off of while monitoring muzzle velocity.
Found it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCqa2umL8ME
Very big bullet, much recoil. Very ouch. They're rough to shoot in a heavy rifle, there would be consequences shooting then out of a light pistol.