Dreaming of a more egalitarian world

Alot

This fight was lost decades ago, but I understand.
- Did the alot win?

Do women actually like strong biceps?

I feel the more you go to the gym you realise that you just do it to impress other men…

I think the truth is women do like muscly men, but men tend to overestimate how muscly. Like swimmer physique is attractive, hollywood batman physique is male power fantasy; or something
- I can't speak for every woman, but I can speak for my own experiences and report based on the things women I know have said. For me and those I've spoken to, we may like muscles, but the things you need to do to get those muscles often aren't as attractive and cancel it out. Like, if you're getting muscles by going to the gym every day, that's only gonna attract women who are enthusiastic about the gym. If you get them from farm work, you'll attract women enthusiastic about farm life.
  That's why a lot of us like dad bods so much. It's not that it's inherently more attractive, it's that it's a body type achievable by living the kind of life style people who're into that enjoy.
  In other words, yes, muscles can be attractive, but not nearly as attractive as shared hobbies and interests, and it just happens quite often muscles can be a quick indicator that you probably don't share many.
- You’re close. The real truth is that most average people do not like to date too high above their perceived range of attractiveness. This bears out in many studies but people are attracted to 8’s and 9’s but won’t date them and instead mostly date people that are more normal 5,6,7’s.
  
  Then we look at the opposite side of the coin, 9’s and 10’s don’t even want to date each other. And for good reason. Extremely attractive people often cross a line into narcissism or being too busy to hold a relationship.
  
  So two factors: 1. Most people aren’t extremely fit and so don’t want to date people whose lifestyle does not match their own, we’re all also slightly insecure. 2. Extremely attractive partners tend not to be good partners. The more people that are attracted to you, the less that date you. Also that’s out of fear of competition and effort so it’s not worth it.
- Yeah, I think in general it starts with trying to impress women, then you do it to impress other guys.
  
  I guess it’s similar for women, they might get into doing their make up and looking nice for attention from guys they like, but in the end they’re mainly trying to impress other women or just doing it because they enjoy it.
- Lots of women like really jacked dudes (and many gay men of course).
  
  I don't like super lean jacked dudes personally. Give me a big thick rugby player or a 125Kg sumo wrestler any day over a bodybuilder.
- People usually like the physique, not the commitment it needs to get there and maintain it. Plus, the steroids.
some do, some don’t
Yes.

So true. No gym I've ever been to has been willing to put in a cat ear machine.

You need to find a new gym. The growing process is slow and difficult, but with enough chicken breast and broccoli I too will soon have cat ears others will envy
- I'll start my own gym. With catgirls and a second goddamn bench press rack.

if enough singles start mentioning a preference for cat ears on dating websites, the market will adjust.

personally i prefer spock ears.

Isn’t that kinda elf ears? Or is it a crime against Vulcans to compare their ears as such?
Quark ears > Spock ears.
They should be more realistic than amine ones like actually on the sides of the head

As a woman who would dearly love a pair of fox ears, if it was possible we would have them.

Also, cat boys are criminally underrated compared to cat girls.

Also, cat boys are criminally underrated
- Adrien from Miraculous Ladybug
  
  oh somebody likes their catboys DUMB
One day it'll happen, it's right up there with a cure to aging on the scale of importance.
- I'm still waiting for horns personally, like thicc horns that are part of my skull
- Oh, highmates in Rimworld Biology.