Animals

Why would a cat of all animals be confused about which ones to eat? They are obligate carnivores.

Yeah, they totally get it. We’d eat them if we were hungry enough, same as they’d eat us. This doesn’t conflict with our feelings of love and companionship. We’re all animals here
- We'd eat them if we were hungry enough
  They'd eat us if we were small enough.
  And the house cat has such a strong prey drive they'd likely do it for fun. I suspect when Mr. Rorschach bites on my hand he's testing the flavor.
- There have been cases where cats have started to eat their deceased owners and several places around the world where cats are eaten.
  People are up in arms about people eating cats... Which seems kinda ironic.
To paraphrase the Coen Brothers:
It is a fool that looks for logic in the comics of the preachy vegans
- How do you get "go vegan" out of this?!
They literally kill for no other reason than amusement.
https://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill
Cats are prey to some larger animals, and considering that many humans have portable machines that can instantly kill almost any living mammal, their concern about our diet is probably valid
- Cats are pretty famous for "not giving a fuck", just in general. Also, beyond being obligate carnivores, cats will hunt and kill out of instinct... Not even hunger or necessity.
  Like, a pet mouse or something? Gerbil? Actually a guinea pig would be a great choice for the comic since they ARE food in some cultures.

as a cat owner, I can promise you that cats wouldn't be the confused ones

I mean, cats would certainly eat us, given the opportunity.
- Yes, and they also affectionate and care about their group in some weird way. I wish people would learn from cats!

Doesn't seem too arbitrary at all.

Eh, horse meat isn't that bad
- Neither is rabbit.
Rabbit should be right of horse. Goat and sheep the most right; there is no culture nor religion that bans their consumption. They are that important to human survival.
- Yeah, horses are definitely pets and not food in most of the modern world. Rabbits are hard to place. They just don't come up very often anymore as either food or pets.
And some cultures eat dog, and others worship cows.
Why is your culture correct?
- Who said anything about being correct? That's just where his culture draws that line.
- Because I live in it.
If needed I would eat every single one of them and not feel at all bad about it... Also why is the rabbit there? Rabbit stew is good.
- if needed
  It literally took your first two words to make your entire perspective on the matter worthless.
There's another one like this where there's a line to the right of the duck and the text indicates it's " when I want to nail that hot vegan"
- Priorities!
I would also like to address how horrifyingly close the golden retriever is to the line... Someone really likes cats is my take away.
- yeah...golden retrievers are eaten in some parts of China
- Hi, China here.
Nah, I've eaten lots of rabbit, and I've eaten horse, though I wouldn't do it again, it really wasn't good.
not including horses
Haha. The answer to the billboard's question is "Yes. Right there. That's right. Glad we resolved that."
Two to the left. I grew up very much enjoying cacciatore. Hunting rabbit and hare is a good time, too.

Cats and dogs both eat meat

Wild animals hunt and herbivores occasionally eat meat

So no animals wouldn't think this as they eat meat the same as us and wouldn't care at all about eating meat

So I don't get what this is trying to say at all

Edit: also forgot to add that some animals are cannibals for example chickens

- I'd like to add that domesticated animals that are taboo to eat typically had a use beyond just eating them.
  Dogs guard your property, cats kill pests, horses do work and transportation. You'd only eat those if you were desperate.
  Chickens, pigs, and cows? Not so much. The only one of those I could think with an alternate use would be a truffle pig, which wouldn't be eaten.
- I have a friend like this and he's goddamn annoying about it.
  Yeah I understand what that would feel like after having encountered similar types on reddit and in this posts comment section
Cats and dogs have no metacognition. They can barely recognize themselves in the mirror. We do. We have the ability to think about our actions, assign them moral value and better ourselves. That ability is completely wasted if you hold yourself to the same standard as a dog or cat. Is it ok to sniff random people's buttholes because dogs do it? To eat your own children because some wild animals do it?
- Human beings evolved to eat plants and meat and no you can't get everything from plants as some nutrients in plants are not digestible and don't get absorbed compared to nutrients from meat
  Look if you want to be personally vеgаn indent mind and don't have anything against you for it but when you or other vеgаns attack people who choose to not be vеgаn or have a vegetarian diet then that becomes a problem because you step into the territory of bullying and harassment of others

Ah yes, my cat is so confused she brings me her recommendations to my step door.

Help stepdoor, I am stuck.
- Sorry, I'm not a native speaker and that somehow made sense in my head. I will let it stay as i wrote it cause now i found it super funny.

I'm pretty sure it's only common to not eat cats and dogs and small birds for no other reason than because they taste bad/don't provide much food while also providing other services we find more valuable than they would have as food. Even if that service is companionship. Cats curb pests. Dogs help do all sorts of things. Even birds have uses other than simply pets.

Carnivores generally aren’t good to eat. That definitely plays a part.
- Bear meat is awful - greasy and gamey.
The Chinese and Korean disagree with you. Look up the Yulin festival.

I love my basil plant and take care of it, but one day I'll come along and definitely eat it

Plants are not sentient
- Just because there is no indication of their suffering doesn't mean they don't suffer.
- This post isn't about the ability to feel pain or sentence, it's about the paradox of people eating something they claim to feel compassion for. I can feel compassion for both animals and plants but will still eat them
- That depends on how you define sentience, how you intepret the definition of sentience and the fact that science could change the definition
- They aren't but they're not far off... Trees communicate with each other through fungus in their roots, if one is being attacked it let's the others know, I can't remember what evasive action the others take but still...

Read an account of a guy lost at sea, after a while fish eyes and liver were delicacies where mere weeks before he was repulsed by the idea... When the brain decides "ok I'm taking over to keep us alive" you will not only eat things that you normally wouldn't - you'll enjoy doing it too.
Of course they will. I'm sure that I also would've reverted to cannibalism if I would have been involved in the crash of Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571. But considering normal circumstances: what's the point of killing animals when you don't need to?

All humans are of equal value.
Not all animals are of equal value. A cow is not of the same value as a fly and a fly is not the same value as a human.
Would you deem someone who swats a fly equal to a murderer? Probably not. Because the value of flies, if any, is irrelevant.
All humans, including vegans, deem animals as of lesser value.
You will never protect a fly to the same level that you protect a human.
There's a distinction to be made, and to deem only humans to be of value, is one such distinction.
- All humans are of equal value.
  In practice, not really. If there's an emergency, people will value the lives of children as much higher than the lives of the elderly, for example. Of course that doesn't justify killing the elderly for personal gain.
  Would you deem someone who swats a fly equal to a murderer? Probably not. Because the value of flies, if any, is irrelevant.
  Well, yeah. A pig has roughly the mental capacity of a 3 year old child, though. Now, of course the child won't stay at that level and will have a longer and more fulfilling life than the pig. But even if that weren't the case, if the child has a disease so that it stays on the mental level of the pig and has the same lifespan, if someone murdered that child that would be murder to me. If we're honest, the only difference for pigs is that we treat them as inferior to such childs because of their species, similar to how humans were deemed inferior because of their race to justify their exploitation and mistreatment.
- I'd assign value in order of sentience, consciousness, comprehension of the world, others and self. How intense do they experience the world? Can they feel pain and suffer? How social are they? Is it really like something to be that animal / does it have a subjective experience? Does it want to live?
  Would you generally agree?
bro animals eat animals, it's kind of a thing if you haven't noticed
- Animals also rape other animals of its same species or kill their own children. Not sure we should take animals as inspiration for our own decisions
- There are even humans that eat other humans. Therefore eating humans is fine?
  Animals also commit infanticide, so lets all kill some children I guess.
I don't think anybody called pigs or cows morally inferior?
Our farming practices were arrived at mostly through utilitarianism. What was easy to raise, what tasted good, what animals had food readily available for them nearby, what would sell, etc.
- I don't think anybody called pigs or cows morally inferior?
  Many, many people say or think "they're just animals, so it's not wrong to kill them", which is the same argument.
  Our farming practices were arrived at mostly through utilitarianism.
  Maybe you meant pragmatically? Utilitarianism would include the suffering of the victim, but 99% of meat eaters I met (also my former self) buy meat from supermarkets and restaurants with no regard or even thought of the living conditions that the animals had to endure.
  Our farming practices were arrived at by the free market. Farmers have to continually lower production costs to stay cost-competetive, because most customers buy the cheapest products available. If two restaurants had the same meal, one at 12$ and the other 10$, almost everyone will choose the cheaper option of course, no questions asked.
  Cost reduction had been the main driving factor for our farming practices in the last few decades. Suffering is irrelevant for capitalism.
- Yeah. I don't eat bacon because pigs are racists. I eat it because I can, and I like it
Using racism to attempt to promote your comment is disgusting because it flies in the face of awareness of the inequality and discrimination from racism itself
You are disgusting and I'd hope your behavior wouldn't migrate over from reddit, yet here you are unfortunately
There is also the possibility that your comment is a bait comment
- How so? If I were to compare racism and sexism to argue that sexism is bad, that doesn't play down racism in any way, to the contrary. The same is true for comparing the ideological basis of racism and speciesism. Please explain why that's disgusting.

Simple. If you name it, you don't eat it. Also, most carnivores taste terrible so we avoid eating those.

We name 🐮 They're really super affectionate, smart and playful. Our cow used to watch for my dad around the time he would come back.
We bought a 4H pig at the county fair once. The kid named her Barbie. It was one hell of a BarbieQ.

I don't think it's arbitrary. I think people eat the ones that are tasty...

I think you haven't had much cat.
- I've heard enough about how greasy and gamy it it. Just haven't had the opportunity. I will eat any meat put in front of me as long as it was prepared well.

Oh man, I like cats, but they really are the worst when it comes to this subject...
https://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill

I always find it funny that vegans seem to completely ignore fish, they only ever have a pickle with mammals and some birds

Uh, Vegan here. Fish suffer. Fishing is depleting the ocean and creating loads of plastic pollution via fishing nets. Stop eating fish. Do you see how you're like, totally wrong?
- My point is that these preachy messages, such as the one in the comic in this post, never show fish, possibly because they're not as "relatable" as other animals humans consume.
lol um, no?
So you find something funny that you completely made up in your head and applied to an entire global community to suit your own narrative? Good for you👍
- Nope, I find it funny that vegans always like to point people having pets while eating other animals, but never make these preachy messages showing fish, they only ever show "cute" animals
That's pescatarian
Vegans don't eat fish.

For the record, I'd be down to eat both cats and dogs if given the opportunity, I just wouldn't eat my own pets.

How to trigger a vegan with only two words:

Nature cycle.

I mean, its kinda funny at how folks believe that we are an evolution of an animal unable to judge and dream to (suddenly) deny our (natural) purpose towards other animals.

No vegan is triggered by this argument. It is simply the naturalistic fallacy.

I don't eat dog.

Bivalves lack a brain.