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Developed by a professional, multi-disciplined full-time team with some security oversight.
Hosted caching of The Movie DB for faster lookups
Provision of SSL communication to and from your server without any special setup
FREE EPG data caching
Centralized server management from the web
Low-speed relay for those stuck behind CGNAT.
A REALLY solid mobile audio*** player (sorry, but plexamp beats the pants off the JF alternatives)
Centralized Login for your friends and family with email-based password reset
2FA already set up
A nice reflector gauge to see if your* ports are open and what your limits are
Great client support on a LOT of devices
Search is fast out of the box, even with extensive collections
Their clients tend to do a better job supporting all the decoding features on every player
Very reasonable Tuner support (but somewhat ugly) **
Cons:
Not free
Not Open
They have a lot of your historical data and will eventually sell it when they sell the company. This is not going to be optional. That data is worth a lot and they likely already have enough EULA rights to sell it to whoever asks. Imagine if the MPAA gets in on the fun.
Their security history is quite dicey
The lifetime membership will eventually be enshitified as it's not economically sound in the long run
They constantly change the terms of the agreement.
They constantly remove features people are using
They constantly push to share data between users
They constantly push Ads
They are making previously free features pay.
Their investors are starving, which makes them a liability.
Their clients are generally slower.
edit: * a word ** forgot to shout out for the tuner support *** replaced media with audio for clarity
I am a die-hard Jellyfin user, but I still haven't found a proper way to index and stream my music library with it. As far as i know, Plex is still better at that.
Not the user you replied to, but for me, the issue I've been running into is with featured albums or albums with album artist metadata info filled out {image}.
Its been a minute so I dont have the specific cause I was focused on. This problem was more prevalent in EDM tracks
I don't think jellyfin does any tagging for you. Pretty sure you can edit it, but it's not automatic. I use lidarr and mp3tag for that. Maybe musicbrainz picard on a rare occasion, if I've got a bunch of files that need to be identified first.
Not OP, I've kinda had a middle of the road experience with it.
I run JF and Plex on the same shares.
I dropped 10k tracks on it and a bunch of audiobooks, my stuff is 100% tagged.
I use tailscale to get to the server because here's no Nat Holepunching going on.
I try to use it as much possible for audio, but some days, I just give in and use plexamp (like a guilty pleasure)
cons:
It has issues with displaying some of the songs, they're tagged right but you just can't find some of it. They're all Discogs coded, so there's not even a lot of extra characters.
It doesn't always remember where in a book I am,
It has no idea about collections of book files.
Search is very slow, (yes there is a plugin for this, yes it's complicated enough I haven't tried it yet)
Scrolling a large list is stupid low, it should just stream everything text into ram and bring thumbs in on demand
Finamp: Finamp is barely a wrapper for the JF engine to the point that they can't implement effects or crossfade without the feature being added in JF first. But JF is just using a ready-to-go library to play music, so changes to JF require upstream library updates. Audio development feels stagnant.
Finamp scrolling loads one letter at a time. Scroll to Z? you get to wait, A....B...C...D...E...F...G...H...I...J...K...L...M...N...O...P...Q...R...T...U...V...W...X...Y...Z, no skipsies. It literally takes me a couple of minutes to go to songs that start with Z.
Plugin installs are complicated and poorly documented, and compatibility with versions is dicey
Finamp: If you lose the network in the middle of a song, you can soft-lock the app.
Finamp: occasionally crashes if left for a long play session on my late-model Android phone.
No options to cast.
No listening through a NAT without port forwarding (which is dicey without a security team)
No 2FA
Finamp?: Shuffle is too random, you can get the same song to play twice in a couple of minutes. it needs to pull at least a couple of hours of list and shuffle that, rather than random play.
pros:
It's free
It works good enough-ish for a daily car ride.
It has some form of limited home-grown fail2ban
The developers are super nice people.
I exported my Plex playlists and used some Python to turn them into m3u lists, which worked fine. (Would be a cool feature to import from Plex)
Can this edit the metadata in bulk? I'll have to give it another shot. I'm pretty sure the album artist was the the problem, and I couldnt just delete that bit.
I dropped my music library into Jellyfin just as an extra. I've built up quite a collection over the years of CDs and always rip and tag them as I acquire new CDs, so while the collection is a little messy it's sizable and mostly correctly tagged
Jellyfin's music playback has been buggy but getting better with updates. At the current rate of improvement it'll probably be really good in a 2-4 years, but right now it's kinda meh. It exists but it's buggy enough that I don't use it much
I've recently had really good luck with Finamp on Android at least. With the recent support of time lyrics in Jellyfin and Finamp's redesign I've been using that to stream my Flac audio files. Works quite well with separate collections as well. Though, to this day I still have to force close it more times than I like to get the UI to refresh after closing it. Plexamp was tough to lose when I swapped many years ago, but the third party space has slowly been closing that gap over the years.
Years ago, I tried out Jellyfin (Emby at the time) and it couldn't do chromecasting with subtitles (probably fixed by now, this was a long time ago). Since I wanted to watch anime, I bought a Plex lifetime subscription instead, and I'm too lazy to switch.
I generally agree with you and its what I did, but why do i need yet another device plugged in, draining power all the time? I dont want to leave an even larger co2 footprint and software support on existing hardware could aid in that. The android box is a workaround, not a green enough solution in my opinion.
Because of proprietary garbage, copyright law and enshittification. Sony wants you to use the software its bribers pay it to support, another symptom of our dystopian, profiteering world.
I sometimes think Jellyfin gets on Roku devices because none of the little snots at Roku's corporate office have taken notice, fallen through the cracks and forgotten about.
If it's any benefit to you, the Android box being Android allows it to sip power at an LED bulb's level of efficiency when it's idle.
I sometimes think Jellyfin gets on Roku devices because none of the little snots at Roku’s corporate office have taken notice, fallen through the cracks and forgotten about.
Because Jellyfin et al are all still very much "open source projects" in terms of UI/UX and it is still "missing" so many features.
For me? The big reasons why I just use plex boil down to:
Maybe 80% of the time, I can cache an episode or a movie locally on my tablet when I am going on travel. This is great if I am doing a rewatch of something or don't super care about The Experience and just want to watch the next few episodes of a show in the evening. With Plex, this is trivial. With SOME of the third party jellyfin apps, this can be sort of worked around but then becomes a hassle to sync watch statistics (which episodes were watched or even where I left off because a buddy wanted to go out for drinks).
Remote watching is similarly a mess. Plex has pretty okay-good systems to treat my home server as a "cloud" resource with a single forwarded port. While even that is very questionable security wise, Jellyfin is still "figure it out yourself". Which can be done with setting up a vpn or using Tailscale but adds additional complexities.
Plenty of other "quirks" along similar lines
My personal opinion? For something that only "tech savvy" people are using more or less locally, Jellyfin is fine. For something that "just works"? There is no competition with Plex. And considering how many of the Jellyfin workarounds end up being "just download a copy of the file locally and watch it in VLC"... why would I use Jellyfin at all in that case when I could otherwise just mount a samba share or use Kodi (that is the latest incarnation of XBMC or whatever the samba share frontend we all used to watch porn on our playstations was, right?).
To be clear. I check in on Jellyfin probably every other year at this point? I WANT an alternative to Plex. But... Jellyfin ain't it.
My first time fucking around with Plex did NOT include docker. I googled what docker was like 9 times over the course of stupid few months cause I just didnt understand it. Now I do, and I run it via a docker stack but very very few beginners are gonna go for docker.
Since I originally started using it on my everyday use Windows PC via an exe, no I did not hahahaha. Now I have it running in Open Media Vault on my NAS.
I went to the Jellyfin landing page, went to the install instructions, copy pasted and ran literally one command, opened it in a browser, made my local account, clicked a button to point it at my media folders and then I was done.
User sharing without opening my Plex server to the public internet. For Jellyfin I would have to become a VPN provider and allow people into my private network to share it safely, since you wouldn't want to have Jellyfin available to the internet with their stance on security
I’ve been a Plex user. Honestly it was mostly because I chose Plex years ago before a lot of the recent controversy. Plex always seemed like it had a nicer interface, though I never really gave Jellyfin a try. As of late, Plex has started to add a lot of bloat to their interface, so at this point Jellyfin’s UI might actually be a pro.
I've tried Jellyfin and the Live TV / tuner interface sucked so bad I didn't want to bother with it any further. Maybe I could have found plugins or some shit to make it more usable but I've had a lifetime Plex pass for almost a decade and it still works great
Yes, they've made a number of decisions that truly suck in that time but it's still better than the experience I had with Jellyfin or Emby, even recently.
Can I ask why nobody recommends Emby? I've been using it for years with zero issues. The only thing I can think of is that Jellyfin exists and is free. Emby is sort of a middleground between Plex and Jellyfin; it has a paid license (lifetime option exists), but it's closer to Jellyfin than Plex on the whole.
Do you mind elaborating on that? It sounds like I got in on Emby after the rugpull. It works fine for me and I use it without the Connect (online account) feature.
Thanks for the info. I'm sure it'll also be useful to others reading the comments.
This sucks because, functionally-wise I have zero issues with Emby. But morally, this bothers me a lot. I thought it was going to just be because of the license (I think I paid $99 around Christmas a few years ago for a Lifetime license).
Guess I'll be switching to Jellyfin then and donating to the project. If I paid for Emby, there's no reason I can't donate to a free, open-source project being developed and maintained by volunteers.
Seeing the person chewing out folks for calling for a fork is pretty funny in hindsight. They aren't wrong, but now they're the recorded naysayer in a pivotal moment for a major open source project. It's like anyone who said Open Office shouldn't be forked when Open Office was purchased by Oracle. Now Open Office is abandonware with only functionally useless commits and multiple unpatched security issues and Libre Office has completely replaced it