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I agree with the principles of what you're saying, groupthink is certainly bad, but usually people align with other people with underlying foundational values and beliefs. Ie, people tend to support gay rights if they also support trans rights, because they stem from similar areas of prejudice. Intersectionality and all that.
Usually, the truly unique perspectives are for often contradictory views, like being an Anarchist Capitalist, though even then there are still groups of people who think similarly.
I agree with the principles of what you're saying, groupthink is certainly bad, but usually people align with other people with underlying foundational values and beliefs. Ie, people tend to support gay rights if they also support trans rights, because they stem from similar areas of prejudice.
But the foundational values vary from culture to culture. My country has a lot of people who are socially conservative, but not that many who support free-market economics. In your own example, we have a long tradition of transgender people, and they have laws protecting them from discrimination. On the other hand, homosexuality was a legal grey area until a few years ago, and their marriages are still not recognised by the law. Iran is an even more extreme example here, with gender reassignment surgery being state-subsidised, but homosexuality still illegal.
So I wonder to what extent political positions are universal, and to what extent they are an accident of history.
Being an anarchist capitalist really just stems from having a different definition of anarchism than most anarchist denominations (I'm not one btw, I've just spent a lot of time speaking to different types of anarchists in the past). I know it's just a sidenote and not your main point, just wanted to point it out.
That. That, the scorched earth policy toward anyone not on board, and the nazification of everyone in any degree of opposition.
The horseshoe feels like a circle sometimes.
Did you just say you like chocolate ice cream??? Well that obviously means you hate strawberry ice cream by default you fascist pig!
“Yeah, that’s a good idea, but is it completely unassailable logic that is beyond all criticism? Because that’s definitely the best standard to use against the rough draft of an idea.”
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Less infighting among the green left would be very helpful.
The decades long fight against nuclear that just made sure coal is used for longer... Pain...
The perfect is the enemy of the good
I can't speak for everywhere, but this line is frequently levied at the Greens party here in Australia, but it just doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
In all of the noteworthy cases where they've voted against the "good", they have negotiated and later ended up voting in favour of the "better". In no case did they hold up hoping for "perfect".
But they're still blamed for voting down climate policy way back in 2009, despite the fact that independent Treasury modelling said the 2009 bill's climate policy wouldn't have had any reduction in emissions until 2035. That wasn't even "good". So they voted it down and negotiated with the Prime Minister who replaced the megalomaniac that refused to negotiate the first time, and passed world-leading policy in 2010, seeing immediate reduction in emissions.
At a Christmas gathering, my sister-in-law decided that I'm a misogynist ... for no reason other than that I said I don't care for Taylor Swift's music. I genuinely thought she was joking, but nope she was dead serious. This meme hits home.
Yup I'm a leftie, and there are some positions on the left that annoy me. But that's fine, it wouldn't be good to be one gelatonous mass.
There are some positions I completely reject but they are extremely fringe left.
I don't like them and they creep me out but Thought Slime was right about this one
Hell, Thought Slime is a perfect example of this! They annoy the SHIT out of me and I still refuse to join the right wing.
Who/what the fuck is "slime"?
"Thought slime" is the handle of the OP in the screenshot
Fuck the right wing fuckers, and fuck you!
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Yes! SEPARATELY.
Crabs in a bucket, the tweet
Liberalism is a spectrum, conservativism is a monolith.
Liberalism isn't leftism, though. This is more poking at MLs fighting with DemSocs fighting with Anarchists fighting with Syndicalists fighting with Market Socialists, etc.
ThoughtSlime would know, they're annoying as fuck ♥
It's the comma splices that get me.
Loathing your own (and probably yourself) isn't the W you think it is
You're right, from now on I will agree with things I hear from anyone without being critical.
Hate immigrants, hey, me too. Hate taxes, hey me too. Hate brown people, hey me too. Capitalism is flawless, hey I think so too. Harming minorities is fine, hey I think so too. Heil Hitler, Heill Hitler.
Strange, how did I get here?
I dunno, the only other leftists that annoy me are browbeat merchants like Thought Slime.
The fact that's on twitter is the cherry on the top.
Damn leftists, they ruined the left.
https://youtu.be/bsFzc0wAtFs?t=211
Completely accurate representation of Progressive politics.
When "leftists" start using the same dialogue as fascists because they think it will give them a sense of power then no wonder I am gonna hate them.
Past that, it's how far down the line is progressive thought still beneficial and when does it become just a deep seated illogical belief in fiction? When is it no longer beneficial to the current arguments being had. And how do you avoid telling those people to shut the hell up and get back to us when the fire isn't raging so hot.
But then they get upset about being dismissed and then back to deep-seated conservative spiteful behavior. Ugh. Humans are such a mess.
Yeah. I recently had a leftist say they weren't willing to work with the "Demo-kkk-rats" and that I wasn't a leftist for not agreeing with them.
They consider themselves the face of a leftist community and actively push literal right wing propaganda terms. So yeah I'm feeling a bit relatable to the picture.
As a leftist, I can relate. Thought Slime annoys me sometimes.
Thought slime has some mixed-quality takes, but is, above all else a wokescold crybully, making them incredibly toxic and counter-productive.
What the hell does "wokescold crybully" even mean?
Thanks for this recommendation, will be checking out Thought slime
I only watch their youtube videos and don't really get that vibe from them. Am I missing some drama context or could you elaborate what makes them so bad?
Imagine having a Youtube platform with over 10k+ subscribers and using it to manufacture micro-celebrity drama.
I mean, you have two flavors of leftist youtubers: ineffectual wokescolds and edgelord dudebros. Edgelords are one leaked DM from them to an underage fan away from pivoting into straight authoritarian nationalism, and wokescolds are basically trying to fill out a pokedex of other online leftists they made enemies with because they didn't pass a particular ideological purity test.
Translation: He criticized my favorite cryptofash youtuber and my butthole's still aching from it.
And before anyone says otherwise, they literally orbit around a pedo who dropped the jewish question. They're cryptofash.