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collapse of the old society @slrpnk.net

Utah is building a 1300-bed involuntary detention camp for unhoused people

Solarpunk @slrpnk.net

We should all be Luddites

  • AI is a parasite. It can't come up with anything a human didn't create first. It eats our thoughts and regurgitates them.

    We kill AI by limiting our use of the Internet, renouncing social media in particular (and yes, I recognize the hypocrisy), and communicating with actual human beings through encrypted messenger apps that AI can't scrape for new training material.

    Think of AI like an online troll. Don't feed it, don't engage with it, and it will be irrelevant to you until it finally gives up and dies.

    But the social media machine wants you not to talk to actual human beings, it wants you to be lonely and isolated, so you'll consume its product - and AI is just a part of that machine, making you lonely and then providing you with the illusion of a real person to talk to.

    Gardening is a great way to fight that, especially community gardening, because you literally have to be out there in person with your hands in the dirt talking to other gardeners.

    So I agree with this post and strongly recommend anybody who doesn't have space to garden go looking for a community garden, or volunteer at a food bank (which often have ties to community gardens and can point you at opportunities), or help at a Food Not Bombs event, or otherwise get yourself involved in the real live in-person work of feeding human beings, and reclaim your brain from the social media algorithm feeding you AI slop.

  • I don't know who the people around you are. I won't tell you you're wrong to be afraid of interacting with them.

    But I do know that social media is designed to make you feel that way.

    Social media algorithms find the angriest, the most hateful, the most radical, content on all sides and feed it to you. So you're going to see people on your side saying the other side wants to kill you, and you're going to see people on the other side saying they want to kill you, and you're not going to see the vast majority of people who don't actually want to kill you.

    Because the more afraid you are of your actual human neighbors, the more time you'll spend on social media watching ads and being force-fed algorithmic slop. And that slop makes you even more afraid of your neighbors, so you spend even more time online, and so on and so forth.

    So I'd ask you to ask yourself: if you believe people in your community want to kill trans people and enslave blacks, how much of that belief comes from what people in your community have actually said and done, and how much of that belief comes from stuff you've heard online?

  • Solarpunk @slrpnk.net

    Never Stop Pushing: Radical social change through Skateboarding, Education, Community, and Perseverance in “Worst-case Scenarios”

  • And that's the "no ethical consumption under capitalism" issue. Sure, you need a house to live in, and goods to purchase, and places to buy those goods (ie, malls and other commercial stuff). But how can you absolve yourself from blame for purchasing necessities and not offer that same grace to the companies that produce those necessities for you?

    Pointing fingers and placing blame is a distraction. The right thing to do is for you to reduce your environmental impact where you can, purchase goods from the least bad producers, and encourage others to do the same.

  • Yes, and, who's buying the products of those industries? The construction industry doesn't build houses and tear them down again for no reason, you know? Consumers bear a share of the responsibility for the environmental impact of production.

    Of course, in exploited colonized nations where products are extracted and shipped overseas and locals are left with nothing, the dynamic is different. But somehow I doubt this is happening in the EU.

  • I think "we" (secular Westerners) are more likely to appropriate spiritual indigenous narratives, take them out of context, and trivialize them into meaninglessness - as the article describes we did with the concept of mindfulness - than we are to erase them. And I think this will happen because we, secular Westerners, are living lives devoid of spiritual meaning, and it's terribly tempting to steal other people's beliefs in the hope we can find a fraction of their meaning in life.

    And though I'm sure people online are going to go full Reddit atheist on me and tell me belief in a higher power is ignorant and primitive, every society in human history that we know anything about has either had some sort of belief in higher powers or has aggressively suppressed such belief, and that belief served a function of social cohesion that a lot of the left no longer have.

    Honestly, I think part of the reason Trump won - and part of the reason populist, religious nationalism is surging worldwide, Trump being just one example - is that the secular West threw out its own spiritual narratives without replacing them with anything. We condemned Christianity as ignorant, bigoted, and repressive, but we didn't create anything in its place to serve its role. We walked away from the churches, which were the "third places" of our towns, the centers of our social and cultural lives, and we replaced them with what? Coffee shops?

    People need something to believe in, and we told them "do your jobs and vote blue, but it won't matter anyway because the environment is fucked".

    The environmental left needs the warning not to engage in empty spirituality because so many people in it are desperate for the kind of meaning spirituality gives.

  • Solarpunk @slrpnk.net

    Against “Ecological Consciousness”: Why We Need Ecological Literacy, Not Mystified Unity

    Degrowth @slrpnk.net

    The Abundance Movement’s Blind Spot | NOEMA

    Land Back @slrpnk.net

    Supporters Cheer After Indigenous Land Defenders Avoid Jail | The Tyee

  • I have a serious question. Who thought Reddit Answers was a good idea? What's the actual benefit to the company? Did they get a ton of venture capital funding to build it, or are they trying to jump on the AI hype, or what? Does anyone actually know?

    One of the biggest reasons, I think, for Reddit's popularity in the 2010s was that its comment threads often had advice and information and product recommendations from real people - as opposed to, say, Amazon reviews, which were full of bots even back then. A ton of people still search for topics on Google using the site:reddit.com modifier, because searching Reddit bypasses all the SEO and AI-created spam sites that dominate Google results, and Reddit is still one of the biggest open source databases of actual human advice and conversation.

    And Reddit has decided to dilute its most valuable contribution to the internet with AI spambots?

    It's some sort of stage 3 enshittification, obviously - cannibalizing its core use case for short term profit - but I'm morbidly curious who thought this was a good idea and why.

  • Solarpunk @slrpnk.net

    Is greenhushing the new greenwashing? Or something else entirely? | Companies are setting more ambitious climate goals, but talking about them less

    collapse of the old society @slrpnk.net

    Are we living in a golden age of stupidity? | From brain-rotting videos to AI creep, every technological advance seems to make it harder to work, remember, think and function independently | Guardian

    Electric Vehicles @slrpnk.net

    How EVs can fix the grid and lower your electric bill

    Solarpunk @slrpnk.net

    At a Solar Energy Conference, the Star Is … the Soil? | Beneath the gleaming rows of panels, developers learn that healthy soil can make or break a solar project | Inside Climate News

  • One: the original Axios article requires you to log in.

    Two: The researchers were aware of the limits of AI detectors, and tested the one they used. From the article:

    We should also take the judgments of AI detectors with a grain of salt, since their reliability is up for question. In its own testing of Surfer’s accuracy, Graphite had the detector analyze a sample of AI-generated articles and another sample of human articles, finding that it labeled human-written articles as AI-made 4.2 percent of the time — a common problem with these tools — but only mistook AI-written articles as human 0.6 percent of the time.

    And really, judging from the quality of search results these days, I would have expected a lot more than 50% of new online articles to be AI generated, so from that standpoint the article might be good news 😆

  • collapse of the old society @slrpnk.net

    Over 50 Percent of the Internet Is Now AI Slop, New Data Finds

    Fuck AI @lemmy.world

    Over 50 Percent of the Internet Is Now AI Slop, New Data Finds

  • It's like the old economist joke.

    Two economists are walking in the park. The first economist sees a pile of dog shit and says to the other, "I'll pay you $50 to eat that dog shit." So he does and gets paid $50. Later on, the second economist sees a pile of dog shit and says to the first, "I'll pay you $50 to eat that pile of dog shit." So he does and gets paid $50.

    The first economist says, "I can't help but feel we just ate dog shit for nothing." "Nonsense," says the second economist, "We just contributed $100 to the economy."

  • Yeah. Two years ago, mainstream studies were estimating 3°C by 2100 - and it's well documented at this point how climate scientists deliberately underestimate predicted rates of warning to avoid being seen as alarmist.

    At this point I agree with 2°C by 2040 and bet on 3°C by 2050. 5°C by 2100, 10°C if some of the worst case feedback loops exist.

  • That's why they're building doomsday ranches and climate redoubts in places more sheltered from climate change.

    They want their children and grandchildren to be kings and feudal lords, and they've decided the way to get that is to let global society collapse and send out private armies to rule the ashes.

    I mean, the American billionaire junta has made destroying the Center for Disease Control one of its top priorities. They've joined the war against contagious disease on the side of the diseases. What does that say about their priorities?

  • Complex algorithms that follow rules they cannot deviate from = lawful.

    Deliberately incorporating random factors into the algorithm so they don't generate the same result every time = chaotic.

    So I'd argue the LLMs themselves are neutral evil, presuming we allow objects to have alignments. In D&D, non-sapient animals have no alignments, because they don't understand moral or ethical concepts, so that would argue for LLMs being unaligned and the alignment applying to their companies.

    Could you argue a LLM is attuned to its corporate owner and shares its alignment? They'd definitely be cursed.

    Then the companies would veer from lawful evil (Microsoft has been the archetype of abusing laws and regulations to its own benefit for decades) to chaotic evil (Grok has no rules, only the whims of its infantile tyrant).

  • It's an incredible house of cards, and I'm honestly coming to suspect that's the point. These companies have some of the greatest financial experts in the world working for them. They can't possibly not know how fucked they are in the long run.

    But the long run is the long run. I'm confident Trump and his billionaire tech bro lackeys can pump enough money and silence enough regulators to keep the bubble afloat until 2029.

    If Democrats take power in 2029, or if Democrats take the House in 2027 and start doing something effective (lol), then the tech bros pull the plug, blame liberals and illegals for crashing the economy, and guide the predictable conservative / authoritarian backlash to their benefit.

    Yay, technofeudalism.

  • I think that was also why Qanon got so much play in the right-wing media ecosystem - getting conservatives comfortable with authoritarian big government conservatism.

    Trump is going to declare martial law and have liberals killed or sent to camps? Qanon influencers have been telling conservatives that was the plan since 2017. And about 25% of the United States either believed it or thought "yeah, it's crazy, but wouldn't it be cool if it was real?"

  • I disagree that Americans don't pay attention to prices. Americans paying attention to prices was one of the biggest reasons why Biden lost. Biden and Harris were claiming that they'd beat inflation, that the economy was great, that America was on the right track and Harris just needed to continue Biden's policies - and Americans looked at their grocery bills and didn't buy it.

    And that's what gives me a certain amount of hope in 2026. Because if people are going to bed hungry - and they will be - no amount of shitposting by Donnie and his cronies is going to convince them they're full.

  • Electric Vehicles @slrpnk.net

    Inside the Indonesian boomtowns powering the world’s electric vehicles | Nickel is crucial to EVs and the energy transition, but its production comes at a steep cost to workers and the environment

    Fruit & Fruit Trees @slrpnk.net

    vital information for all fruit lovers

    Solarpunk @slrpnk.net

    Your body was not designed to swallow the whole planet’s screams | "we feel so overwhelmed by the scale of it all that we forget the scale of what we can do together"

    Not voting (in your election) @slrpnk.net

    vote for the face or the heel will win

    Electric Vehicles @slrpnk.net

    Vehicle-to-Grid Power Is Becoming a Reality, But Why Isn’t Progress Faster? - Inside Climate News

    Degrowth @slrpnk.net

    Debating degrowth: A response to Jason Hickel

    Degrowth @slrpnk.net

    Finding Lights in a Dark Age: Excerpt

    collapse of the old society @slrpnk.net

    So many climate solutions, so few emissions reductions. A new book explains why. (It's because people have given up fighting against the fossil fuel industry and the capitalist economy relying on it.)