SSD prices predicted to skyrocket throughout 2024 — TrendForce market report projects a 50% price hike | Tom's Hardware
SSD prices predicted to skyrocket throughout 2024 — TrendForce market report projects a 50% price hike
Spreading rumors of price hikes, to justify later price hikes and quell customer outrage over it.
Capitalism 101.
They all cut way back on manufacturing last year due to the price drops from significantly reduced demand. So it's 100% expected that prices will go up because they've created a reduced supply.
It’s like there is a SSD OPEC.
so they are treating computer parts like diamonds now? Faking supply shortages to increase demand, therefore prices?
Capitalism is so efficient.
They're reducing supply because they can't make any money with this supply/demand mismatch, Micron for example didn't have a single profitable quarter and lost something like $6B total over the course of 2023
The only reason SSD prices have been this low is because we've been paying less than the cost to produce them as they try to recoup some of their losses and shed inventory
I think they're underestimating how long reduced demand can continue... Especially when they make things even less affordable.
Yep pure market manipulation
Butter the bun before the bake
By what magik are they able to “predict” a 50% price increase ?
Market Manipulation Lvl 1: Hyping
Man I cannot wait for The Day Before!
Setting expectations..
They plan to raise prices 50%, then they raise prices 50%.
My employer isn't any better. We raised prices on our second biggest product line about 6 months ago.
Article says SSD manufacturers currently sell at a loss & intend to raise prices because they want to be profitable, 40% is break even, 50% is profitable
Well that's not great... They're already pretty expensive as it is.
yeah i thought 4TB would be like $50 now. whatever happened to moore's law
Unregulated capitalism some would say, I say cheap production costs with little to no consequence whatsoever for them doing this kind of thing.
I thought Moore's law was only for CPUs/chip density?
Moore's law makes no comments about the cost of each transistor in an advanced process. And believe me, they ain't cheap. It's not a coincidence we're up to PLC flash... why go for 32 levels when TLC is likely already a pain?
As tech shrinks it’s only getting more and more expensive per mm. Unless we get some major improvement we’re kinda at the limit for the moment.
Yeah, spend $200 on a 4tb m.2 gen4, or $200 on a 18tb hdd
You couldnt even get a good 4tb sata ssd for 50€ what made you hope for nvme?
SSDs are absurdly cheap at the moment. 2023s demand glut led to a huge over abundance of SSDs and dirt cheap prices.
Right? SATA III SSDs currently cost the same as HDDs of the same capacity, at least where I live. If it stays like that, it will no longer make any sense to buy HDDs. Finally.
I still remember buying my first SSD some 10 years ago which at the time cost 20 times more per GB of what it costs now.
Greeedflation bullshit
These companies need to get smacked upside the head. Hard drives would be pretty much completely obsoleted if SSDs hit the prices that they should if we had proper competition instead of the "competition" to keep prices up that this memory cartel loves to keep up. My only hope is for another player to come in and dump cheap product onto the market like Japan did in the 80s.
Hdd wont be obsolete for awhile. They're the best media to store large libraries cost effectively. Until there are 10+TB SSDS with reasonable prices, many people with home storage systems won't upgrade. Not shelling out $10k for SSDS, sorry.
That's what they said though...
Lower end 4TB SSDs were around $130 a while back (summer or fall of last year). I bought an 8TB hard drive for about $100 around that time since I just wanted archival storage. Since then, prices for both SSDs and HDDs have gone up. Still, I think for most people 4TB should be more than enough and I have a feeling that prices could've gone even lower back then but they want to keep prices high and they also want to keep segmentation between HDDs and SSDs instead of erasing most of the market for HDDs.
While I love the thought, I’m not going to hold my breath on replacing my 880 TB of spinning platters with SSDs.
A 3D printing revolution is what we need. Something that can print a very basic storage device. It doesn't have to be good, just needs to be free shitty alternative to these price gougers.
I'd suggest you do some research on 3d printing, you seem sorely misinformed about it's capabilities
Unfortunately it's not possible to 3D print memory and the memory densities required makes it impossible for anyone other than those on expensive cutting edge hardware to achieve cheaply.
An admirably optimistic goal! What you're talking about here is a post-scarcity society like Star Trek, though. And even with machines to turn energy and goo into anything, they couldn't replicate complex machinery like a tricorder - only the individual parts, sometimes.
I think that would just be a normal printer. Printing pages of data lol Edit: use the scanner with OCR to get the data back into the computer
You wanna store a few hundred bytes? Print some mechanical knobs and call it a day. You wanna make some real storage devices?
Hire top PhD:
Physicists for quantum effects used (and parasitics mitigated)
Chemical engineers for CVD and other very hard and expensive clean room processes.
Electrical engineers to design analog circuitry for charge pumps and multi-level cell readout technology, as well as digital VLSI/HDL design for digital logic including storage controllers
Mechanical engineers for packaging design and automation for your expensive and dangerous production line
Civil engineers for your fab plant, which is so large that significant infrastructure needs to be built to support your fab (e.g. TSMC in Taiwan funded/built a municipal scale desalination plant of which a significant fraction is used for semiconductor processes)
Until we have replicators as the other commentor pointed out, I'm afraid we aren't even close yet. Fingers crossed we hit type II civ sometime but I won't be holding my breath for it.
Step one: invent replicators
Maybe it's a cartel but I don't have my hopes up. Storage technology is only getting more complicated and the number of players is only decreasing.
In my view (and maybe I'm wrong) there's just not that much money to be made in it, contrary to what consumers think. Why fight each other over pennies when you can both earn dollars? Maybe if China figures things out, but you can be my ass I'm not gonna trust a CCP backed storage company lol
Honestly I was getting scared we'd start seeing a really bad market crash with companies consolidating and going bankrupt left and right with how hard SSD prices crashed. Since that didn't happen there's at least still (an illusion of) competition
Looks Iike a good year for deleting things.
nothing like a little digital Swedish death cleaning to free up space
Maybe this will encourage devs not to make games over 100GB.
Hahahaha! Good joke mate :)
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If what people go for are AAA games with hyperdetailed graphics and massive playing spaces, the tendency is for games to grow in size (all those highly detailed textures and masses of data for terrain and object placement really add up) and the only alternatives for trying to deliver some of that using less data, such as No Man's Sky and their heavy use of generation, end up with results that quickly feel repetitive after some playing and an inferior experience on the adventure side than a carefully crafted gamespace with carefully crafted chracters and encounters.
There are plenty of smaller games from indies which focus mostly on engaging game mechanics and hence are much smaller datawise, but if all you're going for is something like GTA or Fallout, don't be surprised when the tens of thousands of highly detailed objects and characters, days worth of voice data and hundreds of square kilometers of gameplay area translate into more than 100GB.
Mind you, the industry uses tons of generation in game making (nobody is going around making, say, the various maps in a chainmail texture by hand) but it's all vetted and costumized by actual people and the best results end up properly fitted to the models and stored as mainly static stuff in the game data files so big and varied gameplay ares will add up to lots of data even if a lot of it was done with the help of generative tools.
So far and from what I've seen, unsupervised AI can't really deliver good results in a lot of that, so whilst it will probably be a massive leap foward in the area of generative tools for game making, you will still end up with massive game data files containing the output of the AI generation, carefully curated and even customised by actual humans.
the only alternatives for trying to deliver some of that using less data, such as No Man’s Sky and their heavy use of generation, end up with results that quickly feel repetitive
This is an area where generative AI can actually really push the envelope and be completely gamechanging. It'll require a ton of work for it to get it right 99.9% of the time without outside input, but it's going to be really cool when game developers do figure it out.
Well, guess I'm buying that new NVME in January after all...
That'll show them!
Exactly what they want you to do.
Well, if they need/want storage, what else are they supposed to do though?
Glad I just bought a 4tb gen 3 drive for dirt cheap
PC part prices are already extremely high, how in the hell can anyone build or buy anything with prices so high?
I wonder if it's gonna be a fire or a flood this year. They always make stuff up to raise it.
This sucks. For awhile prices were so great for consumers. Finally thought prices would settle low. I'm already seeing a 50% increase in some products. Some cheap team group 128gb SSD could be had for like $12 last year. I tried to look at prices a few days back and it was about $20 and rising.
From article looks like they don't want to settle at prices before plummet, but at recent peak prices. Shit companies raising cutting output to inflate prices. Car companies are going to be next to follow. They've had to cut prices to sell recently. Once that settles ....
Wait what? Link?
Since this community has already established that piracy* is justified, and we need our SSDs to store all our morally rationalized but illicitly obtained copies of content we enjoy but don't want to spend money on, how do we now proceed? Obviously we won't spend money, it's the entire reason we're pirating in the first place. This leaves us with only one option: we'll have to be modern-day Robin Hoods and shoplift these SSDs, because fuck corporate greed.
Since this community has already established that privacy is justified
What does this have to do with privacy?
we need our SSDs to store all our morally rationalized but illicitly obtained copies of content we enjoy
Oh hell no! Spinning HDDs are way cheaper per TB! Absolutely no reason to build a library on SSDs.
we'll have to be modern-day Robin Hoods and shoplift these SSDs, because fuck corporate greed.
I think you missed an important part of the Robin Hood story.
*Piracy
H.265
Are you lost? This isn't /c/piracy
Yeah, tell it to the community here. Literally half the comments are endorsing piracy in one way or another.
BRB, buying winrar stock.
So they artificially create a shortage to hike up the prices. Nice.
That’s capitalism for you 😉
More like monopoly.
To be fair they did far over produce them which is why they’ve been so dirt cheap lately.
But companies did learn over Covid that if you just don’t make something you can charge whatever you want for it and people will pay it.