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It’s an Absolutely Terrifying Night in Gaza Right Now

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Some people, communicating via satellite phones, have described the attack as the “heaviest bombardment yet,” according to independent journalist Sharif Kouddous.

“People can’t call ambulances or civil defense. We are being bombed in an unprecedented manner,” said an unidentified journalist at a Gaza hospital, according to a translation by The Nation’s Palestinian correspondent, Mohammed El-Kurd. “The sky around us just lights up [with explosions], and no one knows what’s going on.”

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Israel is no better than Russia.
- Except that Ukraine attacking Russia was a lie. Russia and hamas are aggressors.
  
  Ukraine attacking Russia was a lie, Israel ethnic cleansing Palestine is reality.
  
  I got temp banned from lemmy.ml for saying that. Basically said "except Ukraine didn't attack Russia first", then got the banhammer. A quick Google on their point (cant even remember what it was) and I knew it was bullshit. I blocked lemmy.ml right after
  
  Bullcrap. Israel has been invading Palestine since 1949.
  
  I mean... yeah if you count back to the time after Hamas's creation.
  why do you think Hamas exists at all lol?
  
  I take it you think this "war" started when Hamas attacked them this year?
  Israel has been occupying Palestine for decades.
- That's interesting considering that Hamas is one of the closest allies of the Kremlin.
  
  You know as well as anyone that this has NOTHING to do with Hamas.
  Their strategy of indiscriminate bombing would not be the answer if they wanted to kill Hamas only. There's absolutely no regard for civilians here. They're not destroying Hamas. They're eradicating the population of Palestine. Anyone who lives will rightly join Hamas and after this, honestly I can see why.
  
  Behavioral/policy similarity doesn't necessarily imply an alliance or partnership compatibility.
  
  Maybe take a look at the agreements between Russia and Israel about Sirya. Welcome to the real world btw.
- Ah yes because murdering millions of your own harmless citizens, who some served in your military is totally the same as fighting against a terror organization who massacred and pillaged your villages and keeps 200+ of your citizens captive.
- Israel is worse than Russia. Russia, in contrast, looks downright reasonable.
  In a few weeks, Israel has killed almost as many civilians as those that have died on both sides over the course of almost two years of the Russia-Ukraine war.
  
  .ca never fails to come up with the worst dogshit opinions.
  
  Ukraine is way larger than Gaza, the EU has let millions of refugees in... and still Russia has leveled several Ukrainian cities to the ground, with soldiers shooting random civilians on the streets.
  Right now, Russia is like Israel and Hamas put together, the only reason they've killed fewer civilians, is they couldn't find more.
- eh, they havent threatened to nuke anyone... cant really say that about Russia
  
  MAD isn't a threat? I thought that was the whole point
- If not worse
- Much as I loathe Putin, he has yet to do anything this savage.
  
  Invading a sovereign nation, killing innocents, bombing schools, hospitals, residential areas, forcefully relocating people, land grabbing, spreading dehumanizing propaganda, threatening to use nukes...
  It is exactly the same thing what both Hamas and Israel have been doing.
  
  Haven't seen the results of Russia's artillery barrages in cities like Bahkmut? A similar barrages I'm Gaza would flatten every building.
- I hope when you realize what a batshit insane take this is, you feel bad enough to actually own it and grow as a person
  
  Whatever helps you and your coscience sleep my dear.
The world is watching. No justice, no peace.
- What exactly is justice in context of a war? And do you realize that absolute justice for all sides means that the war will never end?
  
  You're right, I guess this is just the genocide we had to have.
  /s
  
  What exactly is justice in context of a war?
  Whoever wins.
  The war will end when there are no sides left.
  Which is... either when everyone decides to put their differences aside... or when the last man standing finally dies, all tales get forgotten, and all written records destroyed, so nobody can ever pick any of the sides again. They'll likely pick a different set of sides again, but that will be a different war 🤷
- the world has never truly been at peace though - maybe prior to the evolution of bacteria, but I doubt it.
  
  The natural world is chaotic and violent, so that means we as thinking humans who know what it is to suffer pain and the loss of loved ones, must not only add to that violence and chaos but also devise new, sophisticated ways of inflicting suffering. But also don't forget that we're better and more civilized than animals. /s
- The world is watching justice happen right now.
  
  This speaks to your warped sense of what justice really is, and I pity those around you for how that must affect them as you go through life bleeding your vindictiveness onto others.
  The problem with those who are both shameless and arrogant is that they lack the self-awareness and empathy to put themselves in the shoes of others. May the universe show you the same level of mercy that you seem inclined to grant to others...
  
  If a dog bit a person and that person went to the pound and just kicked all the dogs, is sort of what you're cheering for
  
  Innocents being killed is not justice, it's genocide.
A poll published Friday found that only 49 percent of Israelis want to hold off on the ground offensive against Hamas, down from 65 percent last week.
Disappointing to say the least.
- Entirely predictable though. Unlike previous rounds between Israel and Gaza, they haven't been targeting the rocket infrastructure. Hamas and PIJ have been bombing Israeli cities daily since October 7th. It doesn't get much coverage because most are intercepted and Israel intentionally censors most documentation of it - but you can find it in the liveblogs of most Israeli news sources.
  
  The Hamas and IDF aligned telegram channels have both been remarkably consistent about cheering when about our munitions landing in their territory and decrying the reverse.
- but understandable - after all, there's still quite a few hostages that the terrorists are holding. hopefully they're being treated humanely and not, you know, tortured & etc but terrorists thrive on terrorism...
I'm pretty sure Aliens exist and there are big signs around our solar system that say something like "Avoid that system, murderous apes".
- There isn't single living thing on this planet that won't fight woth others of its kind. Cats fight cats, ants fight ants and so on and so forth. I am sire the aliens would be doing the same shit.
  
  That's sorta true, but like cats and ants aren't exactly sentient lol. They don't commit war crimes and genocide because they can.
  Also maybe a space faring species has no issues with war with how much... space there is lol.
  Aw who am I kidding, its probably just like Elite Dangerous free for fall
  
  Or that just means we're not evolved enough yet
- Warning, Interstellar Travel Insurance does not apply in the Sol System. The Galactic Council Security Office warns travelers to stay away from Sol and specifically Earth due to endemic violence on the planet.
  
  AIens lock the doors on their flying saucers when they drive past Earth
- "BET NOW, real-time observation and casino by Pluto Corp"...
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction
In the fields, the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor, yeah
Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait till their judgement day comes, yeah!
Now in darkness, world stops turning
Ashes where their bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees, the war pigs crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing, spreads his wings
- I don't know why Satan is always the bad guy. If it exists I would be on his side over the opposition. Way I see it the theists are the ones doing these wars
- Oh lord yeah
I guess the silver lining of this shitshow happening right as I joined Lemmy is that its giving me a massive list of hateful idiots and servers to block right out of the gate
Night bombings are always known to be the most accurate.
- Yeah - we should be glad that weapons technology actually evolved to a point, where carpet fire bombings of cities like Dresden or Hamburg (WW2) are a thing of the past.
  
  Don't forget Tokyo! Those we're all war crimes interestingly enough.
  Oddly the siege of Gaza may very well fall into that category with the amount of ordinance that's been dropped, although the terminology would likely be different due to the guided aspect.
  Carpet bombing of cities, towns, villages, or other areas containing a concentration of civilians is considered a war crime[5] as of Article 51 of the 1977 Protocol I of the Geneva Conventions.[6][7][8]
  The term obliteration bombing is sometimes used to describe especially intensified bombing with the intention of destroying a city or a large part of the city. The term area bombing refers to indiscriminate bombing of an area and also encompasses cases of carpet bombing, including obliteration bombing.
  Perhaps it might even get it's own unique term someday. I do find it quite similar from what I'm reading on the first instance of carpet bombing though, the bombing of Barcelona
  Along with the variance of the times between each individual attack, this had a demoralizing effect on the civilian population, which suffered prolonged anxiety quite out of proportion to the number of bombs dropped over a long period of time. Coupled with the fact that there was little discernible military value in the choice of targets within the city, and the cessation of the attacks for no apparent reason
  Edit: sorry meant to add this as well
  The Italian bombers dropped 44 tons of bombs.[7] Rather than aiming at military targets, the Italians intended to destroy industrial areas of the city and demoralize the Republican side, in what some authors have described as the first aerial carpet bombing in history.[1] Their targets and declared objectives were military warehouses, arms factories, trains with soldiers, and the port, but civil buildings, cinemas, consulates, and theatres were also hit or destroyed during the bombing.[8]
- But is that actually true? A lot can be gained from killing your enemies and taking their stuff.
  I’m not saying it’s right in any way, but the motivation should be as clear as any motivation ever has been.
  
  I think the majority of us get it. There are a few who are making decisions that don't understand.

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