Food is literally free
cross-posted from: https://piefed.blahaj.zone/c/onehundredninetysix/p/449273/food-is-literally-rule
Food is literally rule
Edit: Could you please chill it with the taking everything so bloody seriously? It's low-hanging fruit leftist agitprop from c/196. It doesn't aim to be coherent with the very letter of Marx or whatever leftist group/cult-leader you prefer.
Because money robs the intrinsic joys of life.
Lots of research proves it. Here's just one example https://www.library.hbs.edu/working-knowledge/intrinsic-joy-sparks-ideas-better-than-cash
Also, money is literally power and no one handles power well. It corrupts and the more money the more it ruins people. It really is the root of all that's bad.
Power doesn't corrupt, capitalism systemically selects for those most willing to act in corrupt means in order to profit more. You have it flipped.
Definitely an interesting take, and one that I might kinda believe!
I do think that concentrated power is still part of the problem, that problem is just exacerbated by the psycho-selection-filter of capitalism.
Power has corrupted long, long before capitalism. Power and corruption are ancient beings.
I'd argue at this point it doesn't matter which was first because the cycle feeds itself
Also, money is literally power and no one handles power well. It corrupts and the more money the more it ruins people. It really is the root of all that's bad.
Anarchist spotted. ❤️🖤
I remember reading in a game design book how they had a real hard time saying why "play" was different from "work," since you're often performing the same behaviours and chasing similar short term goals.
I guess we could go back to a hunter gatherer lifestyle tomorrow. There would certainly be a lot of complaining, not the least of which would be about the food options. Long pig would be on the table for the first year or so
Big "Yet you participate in society" vibes on this one.
Tell me: How does agriculture require private property?
The top comment in the posted image is just stupid, food takes work, like a lot of work. Whether the land is private/public/something else, it takes a lot of work to maintain a steady supply of food.
I wasn’t making an argument for any particular economic system. Just pointing out the absurdity of the idea that food is “free” or doesn’t require work to produce.
I’m for an equitable distribution of resources and drudgery. Unfortunately, drudgery is an unavoidable aspect of civilization, but I think we can all agree that civilization is (or should be) a net positive. We just need to spread it out evenly.
You can have agriculture without private property, sure. You CAN'T have food without work. Or devices for shitposting without work. No housing without work.
Work, and needing to work to survive, is not unnatural, hoarding the results is.
Joy is the theft of productivity - Corrupt Corporate Cunts
'Punished by Rewards' by Alfie Kohn should be required reading, explained all my hatred for school and work 🙈
For some people, work brings them validation. If you're doing a good job at work, you are praised for it because you are "useful". I think this mindset is relic from our prehistoric past when being useful is contributing to your tribe. The difference though is that most of us are working in private sector, as in working for an individual. A lot of our work don't necessarily and directly benefit society. In fact, some of our jobs are based on exploitation to cut cost and turn bigger profit. Sure, we pay taxes and it goes to welfare and that is how, as workers we are "contributing to society", but some of those taxes into politician's pockets or paid to companies that manufacture bombs and ammunitions to kill civilians abroad. "Earning your keep" and "being useful" are phrases still used but became meaningless under the capitalist system.
Another thing why some people like to work is that it is a distraction from their own personal problems. I understand why but I don't agree, although you do you.
Lastly, some people aren't creative enough to have hobbies or do any activities outside work. They make work their life as a result.
These are the reasons why some people prefer work and can't think of life outside of work. I'm sure there are other reasons so feel free to contribute.
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“Drive,” by Daniel Pink does a pretty good job of explaining it. He also has an excellent TED talk on it.
because you are alienated from the fruits of your labor.
Sometimes I think Marx was just the first "conspiracy theory loving podcast bro" but he didn't have any of the material to distract him. He also was very privileged and did not have to spend his entire life delivering Taco Bell for Uber Eats. But for some reason he still had that same fundamental need to find an explanation for what we all feel so strongly today. It's punching us in the face.
Like, Marx gets a lot of credit because he and Engels wrote the best criticisms that have stood the test of time. But, if you lived in that time, most writings were about class conflict in some form. Hell, the "father of capitalism" (Adam Smith) was even extremely critical of obvious contradictions and was very critical of landlords.
The last century has been mostly about trying to scare the working class into submission. Pointing to "failures" of socialism as if they existed in a bubble; and not the reality of every necessary resource of the capitalist class going to fighting it.
This is primarily done in developing nations. The US ensures it installs dictators or makes the conditions of the countries impossible through embargos (Cuba/DPRK). But in the US it's mostly controlled by distractions. The conspiracy theories, toys, drugs, etc.
But the imperial core control is failing. And, my hope, is even if we don't see progress in the west. That the internal chaos we experience will finally allow the nations the west oppresses to break free.
The alienation we feel needs to be understood in this context. We hate our jobs because they serve no other purpose but to allow us to afford the available distractions we are allowed. Distractions that are becoming less and less meaningful as our material conditions decline and we become more connected to all workers of the world.