I'd love to see this

i had oat butter a while back, and suddenly I understood why all the dairy conglomerates are lobbying hard about the legal names

Because they stand to lose a shit ton of money?
- yes
  oat milk is an alright substitute, helped by being cheap
  oat ice cream has a slightly different texture and flavor, though its harder to notice in the Ben & Jerry's
  But oat butter is indistinguishable from cow butter
Where do they sell oat butter? I need to try that
- seen it in Seattle
  haven't seen it outside of there yet
- This is a little pricier brand, but good. There's a store finder in the menu.
  https://www.miyokos.com/
They lobbied and won against margarine back during WW2. It couldn't even be dyed yellow, you got a little packet of yellow dye to add to your white colored margarine at home. This lasted into the mid 1960s when they just started dying the margarine like butter.
Personally growing up on a dairy farm, I'm fine with making the distinction. Like you can't label food something that it's not. You can only call Scotch whisky Scotch only if it's made in Scotland. Same with cheeses and wines in Italy and France. It's a guarantee you are getting what you paid for, the real thing. And not some fake chemical concoction. It goes even so far as soap. Did you ever notice that Dove is called a beauty bar and not soap?
Go ahead and eat all the oat butter and drink all the oat milk you want if you like it. Oats are a pretty under used crop. The majority of it ends up as horse feed. Oats are a high food value food even for humans. I enjoy making oat bread. It's quick, simple, and tasty. Along side of a chili or soup, it makes for a hearty and nutritious meal.
- I'm in favour of regulations against calling plant milk cow milk, but I'm against regulations against calling it milk. Look at coconut milk. If customers want cow milk, they can very well look at the label. But normal people just want milk and don't much care what it comes out of.
- Japanese Scotch has entered the conversation
interesting, i replaced milk with oak milk (recently learned i'v been allergic to dairy this whole time) but had no replacement for butter
- Oak milk?
  Like a little sap in your milk? 😁
Oat butter is a thing that exists? That's wild.
There's a silly, change-resistant part of me that feels instinctive outrage at this notion. Mostly I'm just curious. I wonder how it's made. Can you start with oat milk and make oat butter? Because it blew my mind when I accidentally whipped double cream so much that it started turning into butter.

To be fair to that barista, the translation of "oat milk" in French ("lait d'avoine") isn't obvious if you don't already know the word. Also keep in mind that the letter H is (almost) silent in french, so he probably thought that client just had a weird accent when they kept asking for "hawt milk"

Also hot is “chaud” in French which could sound like “oat”
- Yeah but milk is lait, the guy is not dumb enough to think she was ordering some chaud milk by using both languages.
  It’s either lait chaud or hot milk, or "hawt" milk in that case.
  We struggle with the oa sound and some "arrr" sound (that’s what ended our pirate career). The worst English word for a French is probably "horror", it sounds like the name "Aurore" with a hot potato in the mouth, something like "Howwowr"

There's no freaking way a barista at an airport doesn't know vegetable milks exist. It might happen but damn that's rare nowadays. It takes them nothing to have some vegetable milk on the side, it lasts more so it's not like they might run into supply issues. Weird.

I've seen this image years ago. I don't know how old it was already at that point.
- Aug 29 2022.
I think this might be a meme about how the french don't like anything that goes against their national values, which heavily relies on eating "proper" food, i.e. no oak milk garbage ... but i could be wrong here.
like how they refuse to speak any language but french
- I like my cow milk thank you very much.
Again, you vastly overestimate our level of English as a nation. The h is a super common problem. And we still think people drinking lait d'avoine are some sort of radicalised weirdos. Also TLS is a small airport, we don't do that sort of fancy stuff here.
- Right, they're confusing Toulouse with a major hub, like Roissy. Some provincial airports are worse than others, but Toulouse is probably not the most cosmopolitan, even with all the aerospace stuff in the area.

Small shops getting pissy about alt milks is my fav bait.

I bring oat milk in a pocket flask whenever I go to the local coffee shop for dates, which gets some looks, but needs must

It only counts if you pour the oat milk super slow while maintaining unflinching eye contact with the staff.
- Take a swig straight from the flask and go "Ah, that's strong stuff"
At least you have realistic expectations. Can't blame you for that!

Oat milk genuinely tastes better than regular milk to me, but it is not cheaper where I'm at.

Somebody with a milk allergy, or intolerance turned me on to oat milk.
For me, I like it better and it lasts longer in the fridge.
I haven't really tried cooking with it yet though.
- As far as cooking with it, I mostly just add it to soup. I've not tried anything like baking with it, though. I imagine it'd work just as well, though. Usually for baking what you're really wanting is the dairy fat. And if oak milk is too thin for that, I can vouch for coconut cream.
- Works fine for mac and cheese (I made it last week)
I've been off dairy for so long that whenever I catch a whiff or taste of cow milk by oops it just seems so cheesy. Like no ty I do not want mozz in my tea lol

Do Americans make this stuff up and really think Europeans don't know what Ost milk is. Bitch please

I think this can only come from language barrier, oat milk in french is "lait d'avoine" which doesn't sound similar at all.
In Sweden all the milk is ost milk.
- Not just soy milk?
Are there no lactose intolerant Europeans?
- There are, as well as vegans, we all know about milk alternatives.
- As a lactose intolerant Australian, I just buy lactose-free normal milk.

This is why it should be called plant juice... Juice comes from plants, not milk. Oat juice ffs

I'd argue that juice is a liquid you merely extract from a plant. If you try to squeeze the liquid out of oat, you get oatmeal at best...

I call BULLSHIT! There is NO WAY that anyone who works in this field doesn’t know what oat milk is… keep trying to uproar your fan base but everyone on the PLANET knows what oat milk is…

You vastly overestimate the level of English of my compatriots. This is a 100% plausible mistake for the average English speaking French person.
Also unless it was a Starbucks or some really fancy coffee shop, we absolutely do not have oat milk as standard. And I've been to TLS, I don't recall that kind of coffee shop there.
I call bullshit too. Especially because I was at this exact airport a couple of weeks ago, and they specifically asked what kind of milk I wanted when I ordered a coffee.
- "We have milk, or... special milk" (waggles eyebrows)
  "Uh, just milk please"
In english, probably not. I had to look it up to know it's lait d'avoine

I'm pissed at that the word barista exists. In Spanish we have one word and we don't care if you are serving food at tables, beers behind the bar or coffees behind of another bar similar to the previous one.

We do have the word barista in spanish.
https://dle.rae.es/barista
It's not exactly the same as camarero, it's more focused on the coffee part. Same as we also have the word barman, which differs from camarero in that it normally refers to people who mix drinks and cocktails behind the bar.
https://dle.rae.es/barman
- Sure we do, now from American influence. Try to find it in a dictionary from 10-15 years ago.
  For barman, when was the last time you used it in a conversation? I've only heard it used by tourists.

Aurghex!

J’en ai marre!

OUI ONLY AAVE NORMALE MILK, MADAME.

Gutted to learn I agree with the French on something.

haha vegans are soooo stupid, amirite

How peuple dare not speaking a foreign language perfectly ?

Lo siento, yo no parle vough fances
- https://youtube.com/shorts/Xe2MbMxuUuY
The phrase "lingua franca" exists as a testament to just how willing and able everyone was to learn French for international communication, and I feel like it's not a huge ask for them to return the favor. It's an airport.
- It's actually not mostly based on French but a bunch of language see Wikipedia

I never liked milk much (always tasted cheesy to me, except the raw stuff, that tastes like hay), then I became lactose intolerant. Most alt milks taste better to me, and oat milk is just better in coffee. Say what you will about America but at least I can get oat milk with my decaf at any real coffee shop. Some gas stations have milk alternatives too, but it's not as common.

Oat milk isn't rare outside the US. It's a bit harder to get in French coffee shops, but not that much.
This is just France being French. Especially because Toulouse is a small regional airport.
- Luckily the EU protected us from associating fake milk with the real good animal milk. He probably was confused because she didn't ask oat 'barista' or 'drink' /s
Personally, I agree with you. Oat milk just meshes remarkably well with the general flavor profile in coffee. It's thick, has the right general umame taste, and the texture is a lot less offensive than almond milk.
If I'm making a sweeter coffee, then I'll go for coconut. But oat is definitely superior in regards to complementary tastes. Dairy is versatile (and, IMHO, the only right way to make a properly foamy capuccino), but there's just something in oat milk that just makes coffee feel like a sturdy, rustic, wholesome drink instead of a delicacy.