U.S. citizen shot from behind as he warned ICE agents about children gathering at bus stop, lawyers say
U.S. citizen shot from behind as he warned ICE agents about children gathering at bus stop, lawyers say
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Shot from behind by federal agents, seems the key missing element of that title.
If you treat people as a group, they tend to lock together as a group. The police are already getting pissed off with ICE, in many places. That crack needs to be pryed open. Indifferent, pissed off police/FBI etc is a lot better than them standing in lockstep with ICE.
Yah we can do more good leveraging the fact that most of these ICE agents are illegitimate and just poorly trained ticks riding on Trump's political narratives and not real federal agents.
We can make the cops hate them and support the narrative that these ICE goons are trying to usurp local authority.
Then when the tide turns and ICE is pushed back into the sea or wherever the fuck they came from, we can go back to hating on the cops. We gotta take the stairs one step at a time.
they’re hardly federal agents
while threatening them with a car. ...
Anyone can shoot someone in a car at any time, because they're armed with a deadly weapon, got it.
This is really some russia level shit.
Even in Russia, people are not being shot on the streets: detained, beaten up, etc - yes (I'm not saying this is good of course), but not shot. The US quickly took the lead in some of the dystopian stuff.
Canada is fucked. Surrounded by Russia and the United States of Russia.
RUSR.
When they annex Canada - CURSR (SUCRR?).
After Mexico - CRRUMS.
Russia doesn't even gun down its citizens in the streets, this is some 3rd world shit.
Jimenez pulled up to three immigration officers, two from Border Patrol and another form ICE and “engaged in a verbal altercation,” it states.
It doesn’t even get any better if you just accept their version of what happened. Six agents vs one guy in a “verbal altercation”, and they think it’s ok to just start blasting?
ICE executes a US citizen with a shot in the back of the head in front of children.
Here, I fixed the headline for you.
He's alive
Totally, this headline is not nearly sensationalist and misleading enough for my taste.
At this point, ICE is just a group of people who harass Latinos based on racist criteria. It doesn't even have to do with immigration.
As a white person, I think of the German people who did nothing when Jewish people were gradually stripped of rights, before the eventual death camps, and I'm not actually sure of what to do. I also am not really convinced that there are no Latinos being sent to death camps right now. If there were, would I know somehow?
My political views are somewhat moderate. I just don't like racism.
Is there anything I can do that will have any meaningful impact on protecting Latinos from this racism? I do not consider protests to be meaningful and I am not asking for any suggestions that are illegal, especially since the government probably trolls these posts. I feel like I'm being a bad person by doing nothing.
Supposedly that’s already happening. Many of the people that were sent to alligator Alcatraz were never seen again. They weren’t traceable. And yet neighboring countries are reportedly finding bodies washing up on their shores. The running theory is that the US has been flying them out into the ocean, dropping them in there to drown to disappear them. It’s horribly evil, and yet it’s plausible.
We’re almost to the end of the end of the poem. I fully expect to hear “and then they came for me“ any day now
I'm German and when I was in elementary school in the 90s we learned about the Nazi regime. An old woman visited our class to talk about what is was like for her as a child under Hitler. I remember that she said some people just disappeared and noone really knew why. There were rumours about prisons or labor camps but noone knew for sure what happened to the people who disappeared. She only learned about the concentration camps after the war was over.
I bet in a decade or so we will learn about all the horrors that are really going on right now.
Have you got sources on the bodies thing? I'm going to look for myself now but just curious where this is reported because I haven't seen anything
FoundNYT article but it's more about people America is killing in boat strikes
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/23/world/americas/trinidad-bodies-us-strike-venezuela.html
scary
You could warn your area if you see ICE around on this website.
Finding and getting involved in a local mutual aid group would be quite meaningful, as it would allow you to meet people who share your same concerns IRL, and be able to plan and organize for how to react in your area. It's very make a meaningful difference alone, finding a solid group is very important.
Attempting to unionize your workplace if it isn't already would be very helpful to further prepare for a General Strike (as they usually have strike funds to make a general strike financially bearable), which is pretty much our last non-violent option to prevent all of this from progressing. You can see how a general strike helped cripple Chile's government while civil unrest was occurring in this documentary.
I'd recommend contacting the IWW, who will gladly train you to become an organizer with proven techniques to unionize your workplace.
Lastly, I'd also recommend checking out the book Full Spectrum Resistance for a more complete guide on how to prepare and respond.
https://www.iceinmyarea.org/ wouldn't let me on the website because I'm using Tor Browser in safer mode and WebGL is blocked (Vercel Security Checkpoint Failed to verify your browser Code 11) and I'm not willing to go on a website like that without using Tor Browser. I really don't trust anything that doesn't trust Tor Browser.
Get trained by a local response team. You can't directly interfere, but by enabling people to exercise their legal rights, you can prevent a significant fraction of snatch and grabs and significantly slow ICE & CBP.
I think of the German people who did nothing
Yup... It's painful. I'm with you. There was a great answer below.
There are two very obvious peices that show the government side is lieing... 1 - a spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security, said ... 2 - Then the agent “holstered” his fire arm
The main requirement to be a spokesperson for anything in this administration is to lie. And ICE has orders to escalate, not descalate.
This comment section is full of fedposting.
Fr, people need to stop treating the internet as equivalent to IRL discussions. Like literally every comment is "shoot your local cop", I mean like, I'm not saying that I disagree with the sentiment, but like... seriously lol? How is suicide by cop gonna change anything?
Just as with computers, your brain also needs a "firewall".
People trying to get you to do or say something which could earn you a visit from the police. Open calls for violence or to break the law in some specific manner. E.g. "shoot your local ICE agent".
I'm not going to say that violence is never justified, but anyone loudly advocating it in leftist spaces online should be viewed with a very suspect eye. The online is very real and your posts here very much can be connected to your identity.
This comment sectionEvery comment section on Lemmy is full of fed posting.
FTFY
Slow death.
Most people don't know that there are short drop and long drop hangings. Long drops snap the neck instantly, and are considered humane. Short drops leave the victim, dangling, and slowly spinning and strangling.
At the end of WWII, after the Allies detained Nazi officers, but before Nuremberg, many were given quick military trials and some were hanged. The preferred method was short drop hangings.
edit: The art is to be resolute without weapons, strategic, smart, large-scale and unpredictable. A national strike would work better yeah but is tricky ig lots of americans need their salary too but you can set up a strike fund for those people perhaps? idk and supporting organizations that protect independent branches of power, independent judges, iguess, protectdemocracy.org for example ig
Most gun owners don’t carry them around 24/7 and probably .0001% of gun owners are actively looking for shoot outs with federal agents at any given time 🤣. They are not arresting gun owners currently do that’s why the lack of resistance id guess.
A cop without a warrant is just an armed trespasser.
Well for one reason they haven’t come to my home yet. They seem to be going after mostly defenseless people with overwhelming force. I’m assuming they’re fucking cowards and they’re not putting themselves in danger intentionally.
Public accountability and punishment for the culprit is much more effective than just start shooting them, of course. But for decades, some Americans kept claiming they needed guns to defend themselves against a tyrannical government, they've been waving "don't tread on me" flags, and here's the government treading on people, and there's not a peep from the gun lobby.
Its what MAGA wants. If ICE starts getting shot then Trump will send in the guard.
Its a waiting game. Maybe we can have another election, maybe it could be fair, maybe the dems will take two branches and start impeaching and/or prosecuting. Not likely ... the dems probably sold out.
I’m so fucking tired of being fearful of what MAGA wants.
They already have what they want!
Yeah true better to be forceful without weapons, strategic, organized, smart, large-scale and unpredictable.
We need new leadership from the Dems for me to believe they're going to deliver accountability after how they handled Jan 6th. But yeah, we can't play into MAGA's hands, I'd rather see an election than none.
I mean I get it and I see your point - if you're going to get arrested/shot/killed anyways might as well go down guns blazing and hopefully taking a nazi with you.
The reality is americans don't want to do that. none are actually willing to die for their country.
I dont get it lmao you get arrested without arms anyway so… why you even have guns in america for anyway if not for against nazis?
I'm an outsider but I think the reality is very clearly not that simple.
Most people are still not being arrested, and most of those arrested or involved with the police or federal agents are not being assaulted with deadly weapons. It's not at the point where it is some kind of obvious choice to make it a fight.
In fact, in reality, that is rarely the case I would say, because the fascists are incentivised to not make it so clear cut and obvious, because then people fight back. That's why the worst crimes of fascist regimes are usually conducted in secrecy and with denial. Even when e.g. France was conquered by the Nazis, most people were not part of The Resistance.
Guess we did not vote hard enough for the Democrats and voters did not vote left enough oh and those Republicans
As the ol' Democrat motto goes
-We will fix it later because progress not perfection and one step at time
Every day I thank the Voyager dev for user tags…
Schumer whipped Senate democrats to vote for cloture on the bill that gave ICE this funding because he was afraid of a shutdown months ago. He is still minority leader.
Schumer whipped them for a funding bill, but not the Big bill that increased ICE's funding by a lot. That one passed with a bare majority and Republican defections. I think it they'd stayed strong them the Republicans might have needed to use their one bare majority bill on that and they could have resisted the later bill.
But he's just such a colossal failure and should be removed as leader and then from office next year. Democrats in leadership just fail and fail and never get removed.
Look, if you're scooping turds out of a punch bowl, and the only tool you have is a net that might be made of turds, then you can either keep scooping or you can throw away the whole bowl of punch. You don't just give up and drink the punch because it's all the same. One is a turd in the punchbowl. The other is a mechanism for removing the turds, but it's also probably a turd. Doing something is still doing something, even if the punch is still shit.
I liked the part where the victem is named but none of the ICE agents are identified. "Officer N.J." is all they say.
Dress up as maga while you slash their tires, throw paint over their cars... letsgooooo bully trump and nazi's out
Don't dress as MAGA, they won't believe it anyway. They already blame Jan 6 on ANTIFA. We need to take full, proud credit for our efforts. We need the world to know who is fighting back.
At their core, Conservatives are cowards, afraid of EVERYTHING - Liberals, gays, minorites, foreigners, other religions, women, women's genitalia, intelligenc, education, , morality, etc. That's why they will vote for anyone who will promise to protect them from their perceived enemies, no matter how corrupt they are.
So the best way to manipulate them is to tap into their fear. Right now they've been taught to hate us by the Conservative Propaganda Machine. We need to make them FEAR us to their core. That way, when we recover our country, we can terrorize them into slithering back under their slimy rocks, where scum like them belongs.
And if they ever dare to poke their heads out from under that rock, we aren't understanding, or empathetic, or want to show the good faith, or hear them out, or give them a second chance, etc. They literally embody the world's evil, and when they try to rise again, we will have to crush them mercilessly.
I don't understand how this happened? Surely voting for the lesser of two evils will eventually somehow stop evil right?
Which lesser evil would you be referring to?
ACAB
No exceptions
What a shithole.
Yep. But the people don’t learn. So I don’t give a shit unless there is civil unrest against that government.
Fuck off
It's really hard to comprehend from an outside perspective that returning to the state of affairs with all the people being killed annually by cops or imprisoned for trivial/made-up stuff is the much preferred choice to the current state.
\ Just awful.
And it's an still there, but now there is ICE too, foreign concentration camps multiplied/got outsourced, and military is being tested.
In a country that wanted change, but got the opposite - just a lot more of the same(ish) problems. And they did that by voting.
I'm not sure any legal mechanism (and there are a bunch afaik) can successfully inhibit the current administration to either just carry on or print ballots with only their names on it. Or just declare a winner without even counting the votes.
A hungry nation fighting for food is in a bad position for a general strike.
We have learned what happens when a fascist leader implements martial law and gives themselves extensive powers to fully clinch a full dictatorship.