No Kings Protest

People need to stop making prison rape jokes. It's not OK to joke about women getting raped, so why is it OK when its a man? I fucking wish more people cared about male rape.

This actually made me sick to my stomach. I'm used to prison rape (and men being raped in general) being treated as a joke, but to see it in an ostensibly "progressive" movement was just too much for me. Especially since these are the same people who rushed to condemn violence after Kirk got shot. Where is your morality now?

Realise that the revenge you're praying for can only happen if the institution of prison rape, which predominantly victimizes queer people in men's prisons, continues to exist. If you find that tolerable even for a second... I just don't know how to reach you.

I thought they were talking about locking Bill Clinton up with him, I didn't even realize the actual joke :(
You are right. This is perpetuating rape culture and is unacceptable in a progressive society. That woman should be ashamed of herself.
Email your representatives.
If it makes you feel better (assuming you meant any of that)
I think reform is coming. We saw it with Hollywood. For the longest time that was also a joke “you wanna be a star don’cha?”.
Humor is pain. You won’t find a single joke that isn’t based entirely around pain of some kind. It’s one of the ways we process emotions and it’s one of the easier ways to talk about difficult subjects. It can and always has been a doorway to the eventual discussion.
So hopefully that helps.
Some examples:
Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side. The humor is “it was an easy and obvious answer you fool!”
the other night as I lied in bed looking up at the stars and the infinite cosmos I couldn’t help but wonder… what the fuck happened to my ceiling. The humor is the thing you thought was coming didn’t happen and now you are shocked and briefly confused.
my mother never breast fed me. She said she always considered me more of a friend. The humor is Rodney dangerfields mother didn’t love him.
Yeah, but it’s fine because it’s someone we don’t like. Just because that makes us a hypocrite, doesn’t mean that prison rape isn’t fine!

Fuck this. No. This is so much of what's wrong with this fucking country.

No. Let's not reinforce prisons as torture camps. For fuck's sake.

It doesn't have to mean anything beyond him having a cellmate named bill.
- Please fuck all the way off with this sniveling, hand-wringy "We just really can't know for sure" plausible deniability crock of shit you scraped off of Milo Yiannopoulos's jackboot. There is no other context in which this sign makes sense other than as a joke, and prison rape is the punchline.
- Come on.
Because there are many wrongfully imprisoned? Maybe we need better laws and no corruption instead?
- This is apparently a hot take with this crowd but I think you are entitled to basic human rights even if you've committed a crime.

Americans really have just normalised and relish terrible things happening to people in prison huh? Social programming is one hell of a drug

The "If Criminal, then Bad Person" and the "If Bad Person, then any Bad Thing OK" combo are pervasive in America, across the political spectrum, and have been for a while. At least since the War on Drugs started, and almost certainly well before that. It is frightening to have a conversation with a seemingly well-meaning, moral person and have them casually joke about prisoners being tortured, raped, or killed. I don't think it's an attitude unique to America but I think the private prison industry has had a lot to do with how incredibly common the attitude is that, if someone is in prison, they must have done something wrong, and if they did something wrong, any bad thing that happens to them (forced labor, starvation, sexual assault, death) is deserved punishment. It's ghastly.
Generalizing Americans is just as bad as the one holding the sign. Which isn't a comment on my feelings about Trump, just that labeling a group of people as "bad" is how Trump got to the place he's at. I would say that most people that vote for him are lied to by the corporate media which are owned by his billionaire buddies.
- I mean you can find the people saying they support this in this thread. Would instead saying "a significant number of Americans" really be such a crucial distinction to make.
As long as it is someone we don't like, then yes.
Edit: oops, I guess I need the /s
- You really think rape should be tolerated and used as a punishment? That's a serious thought in your brain?
Facists need ro be delt with extra harshly imo. The scope of their crimes is just to great otherwise
- So... you're endorsing rape as a punishment, but only if we're like, super duper sure they're fascists? Is that what you mean by "extra harshly"?

Ah yes, the weird American fascination with prison rape as a form of punishment.

"It's okay if bad things happen to other people"
-USA in a nutshell
Remember when their military industrial complex was ravaging through Asia and middle east and people back home were like "Thank you for your service"?
People there are spineless cowards who cling to their made up "superiority" on backs of genocide, slavery, and exploitation all while marketing themselves as land of "freedom".
But now the fascism is using the same military industrial complex against them, best they can do is do some dorky dance in costumes and an organized protest every few months.
It's like they're oblivious to problems they create elsewhere can also affect them in the long run. But will they learn?
Of course not.
yeah, but it's someone we don't like, so it's fine.
/s just in case.
How is that implied? Did I miss some text? Most people seem to agree that this is what the meme is about.
- Because he's a big cell mate, and she wants something bad to happen to Trump.
- Why would a person want a cell mate of someone they don’t like to be anything? (besides annoying or have a good memory (for remembering additional confessions) or something?)
  Big: able to overpower
  Beautiful: kinda gets to a place of romantic or sexual
  Bill: definitely a dude
  Edit - there’s a non-zero chance the protestor didn’t have sexual assault in mind, blinded by the pun. We can hope they were pun obsessed.
Hardly. We all know trump will never actually see a day behind bars. This sign is a comment on how he should be in prison. It's also referring to the karma (not justice) of him getting raped due to all his raping. It also is more appropriate as the GOP aims to put more people in crappy private prisons, without even attempting to solve the prison rape problem. And their public fear of homosexuality played into it as well.
It's not meant to be taken literally and it's a not an endorsement of actual prison rape. It is a message of protest against a president who is a traitor and deserves a bullet in the head. It's edgy to get attention to the cause against trump. Those of us who don't want a fascist U.S. shouldn't fight over minor things like this. Such purity tests will divide and destroy us.
- Such purity tests will divide and destroy us.
  Not liking rape jokes is "divisive," but making the joke in the first place isn't?
Drives me crazy. Shawshank Redemption is a good movie but it really did a number on the average person's perception of prison life.

Prison rape is never funny. It’s traumatic, violent, and life destroying.

Sea-lioning replies justifying rape will be blocked.

So basically a rape joke. Remember when people had a meltdown when rape jokes were used against women ?

Where's the outrage ??? This is sick & disgusting.

Honestly Hope America rots in hell. What a sick society. Trump is seriously the best thing to happen to Americans. Revealed their true depraved nature.

Where's the outrage ???
I see a ton of comments from people upset by this. Yes, it is viewed differently, but in my experience, most people will realize why this isn't okay if you explain it to them.
- So I have to explain why rape is bad to them ??
Don't generalize all of us, please. Most of my state (WA) did not ask for this and actively voted against it.
But yeah, definitely agree about the rape joke. That shit is not OK.
- This crap has been happening for years. you Americans are still an evil, greedy & violent society. The multi-polar world cannot come soon enough. The alternative was a bunch of warmongering assholes. At least with Trump that suffering boomerangs back to you.

Sexual assault is funny, and rape is ok when it's happening to prisoners, clearly.

Not ok, but less bad if the victim is a petulant rapist.
- No it's not. It is unacceptable in all cases. I don't understand how otherwise principled "all humans are humans and deserve rights" people are suddenly a-OK with rape or torture if it's someone they've decided is a "bad person" without realizing they're doing the exact same thing fascists do to justify human rights violations, but it's a pathological problem. If you think it's ok for you (or anyone) to decide who is allowed to have human rights and who isn't, you're an authoritarian in denial and you will fall victim to the next authoritarian leader who agrees with you about who we're allowed to torture.

I don’t wanna be his cellmate?!?

Join the fight club, go from big beautiful bill to big brawny bill

I like it because it's clever. It's still kinda boomer humor about prison rape but No Kings isn't about getting angry about something like that when we have a common enemy.

Plus who knows, Big Beautiful Bill might just be a lovely, swell fellow.

Big Beautiful Bill was wrongly imprisoned like many in America. He is a great guy who looks out for other inmates. He is sex positive and knows that consent is mandatory. After falling in love with Bill, Trump is fully reformed and joins the antifascist cause leaving hate behind and embracing peace love and justice for all.
The kicker being if BBB is a big, friendly inmate doing his best to return to society, but his presence still comes across as torture to Trump because he's hispanic.

Futurama Fry meme

Not sure if prison rape joke or ok

its a tough one cause it is a prison rape joke, those are obviously bad and that doesn’t change here
but i won’t lie, i kinda feel like serial rapists like trump deserve to feel what it’s like to be on the other end, for once
It is a prison rape joke, and that piece of shit will have deserved it.
He's never going to prison though. Americans are too cowardly to actually do anything about the fascists.

Joke about rape as a form of punishment

Several comments explicitly calling for it

Reminder that liberals are more authoritarian than "tankies" could dream of being.

Plot twist, BBBill is actually a decent human being who gets trump to see the error of his ways.

(Yeah, BIG fantasy. I’d win the lottery before the odds of both those things happening)

Can you imaging the psycological trauma? He is jail and so old he can hear Death sharpening his scythe in the next room, and someone makes him see, and understand, the evil he's spent his life on. I know it's a fantasy, but that sort of realization would tear apart any normal person's psyche.
- Yep. Kill trump with kindness. And understanding he’s never going to be forgiven. But that’s an incredible fantasy.

Odd way of nicknaming Clinton, but who am I to judge?

idk maybe i don't need OP or lemmy if this is cool...

I don’t know why people think Trump will spend 1 second in any sort of prison.

They're praying for it to happen, not saying it's a legitimate outcome.
- Ah the thoughts and prayer stradegy.

I'd settle for a stroke at this point

He's already had at least one

Hey there's a sublime song about this

“I hope your cellmate thinks he's God
\ But CNN referred to him as "Bowling Ball Bag Bob"
\ Serving time again for abuse of a corpse
\ Only this time the victim's a Clydesdale horse

While he masturbates to photos of livestock
\ He does the "Silence of the Lambs" dance to Christian rock
\ Eats feces and quotes from 'Deliverance'
\ And fights with his imaginary playmate Vince”

"... Whatever happens next is all a blur, but you remember that "fist" can be a verb... "