Leave us out of it rule
Leave us out of it rule
Leave us out of it rule
Luckily, your President and members of Congress didn't just knee-jerk feelings and assumptions and stuck to facts. It'd be really embarrassing if they just went on national TV and assumed and spread mis-information.
I'm sure all the networks will issue a complete apology in legalese after a long infomercial at 3am on Tuesday morning. Damage done. Nothing corrected. Right wingers will continue to believe he was trans, black antifa. Just like the would be trump assassin.
We should procede as if it doesn't matter what they think, because they can't be convinced of the truth
Nah, they don't know how to process that feeling..
It’d be really embarrassing [...]
It would, if they knew shame. But they don't.
Sad case of white on white violence.
Many such cases.
i know it gets forgotten but the shooter in evergreen was also a white cis male radicalised conservative with white supremacist and anti semitic views who glorified columbine.
Let's gloat about this.
The "unhinged radicals" this whole time have been the Republicans scaring people with totally unfounded claims of a trans uprising, calling to use the government to silence the left, getting people fired for posting that Kirk kinda had it coming, fighting each other at vigils, chanting "white men fight back".
And this whole time we kinda knew it wasn't the left. That this moronic clown wasn't worth wasting perfectly good bullets on. We just waited for everyone to find out.
Idk "Bella ciao" was solid, if he hadn't jumped the shark with OwO I could have bought it.
Charlie Kirk's alleged killer.
Eh, I believe this is the true one. The repressed never fire the first shot.
I don't know who did it. But every patron yesterday at my bar who was spouting off or saying enough is enough, or what is this world coming to, yada yada yada were all real quiet about the whole thing today.
It was a blessed night. Busy. My body is screaming at me. But there was no political talk. Everyone was behaving themselves and besides the one dude I had to kick out yesterday showing up again, it was all around much better.
It almost hurts restraining myself from saying "where's all that shit talking now? Enough is still enough, right!? RIGHT?"
But when I'm working, I'm working. Maybe one day I'll get to be the drunk idiot.
Correction: Registered with no political party, but everything else seems correct.
Edit: https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/sep/12/Tyler-Robinson-Charlie-Kirk-suspect-shooting-facts/
The "Republican" was a different, older, person.
I'm pretty sure he has no great love for fascists.
The checklist is cute but it's wrong.
The fascist thing on the bullets is a direct reference to Helldivers 2 which is a canonically Starship Troopers (the movie) style universe where the fascists who run Super Earth refer to themselves as a democracy while calling their enemies fascist.
This one could go either way, honestly.
You seem to have a rather binary world view. The world is not black and white; anybody who fails to move past such a juvenile perspective is part of the problem.
In other words, your over simplification is not cute, and is also wrong.
How are they spinning this now? Will they say that “the shooter didn’t disagree with Kirk’s ideology, therefore this was not ‘politically motivated violence’, and also this must mean nothing is wrong with Kirk’s hate speech.” Then they dismiss the kid as being mentally ill, and everyone move along, nothing more to see here.
Or maybe he was secretly trans Muslim antifa, and that they are hiding amongst them in their own ranks. That would be kind of funny. Though it would end up getting more dangerous.
Or they have a better spin?
One I've seen posted a bunch is, this guy was a wholesome religious conservative who was radicalised and indoctrinated when he went to uni...which he dropped out of after one semester
The woke was just too much, he crashed out like Icarus in the ocean!
A fucking Groyper too. Fucking love it.
Authoritarian rule is always threatened by other authoritarians.
It's a mental illness. That's the only way authoritarianism can actually be a thing. It has to be a mental illness.
we don't know it's him stop doing the cops work for them spinning the narrative remember luigi mangione they were obviously framed cause they just needed to shut things up and yet everyone went along with it just cause he's hot and it's funny you think they wouldn't do it again don't treat this person as definitely the killer the cops say they are that doesn't mean they are
We have a named suspect and we know the rhetoric of "The Left wants violence" and "violent Trans" suddenly disappeared.
On one hand, you're right.
On the other, this guy makes for a wonderful scapegoat to deflect all the bigots blaming minorities. I don't think public discourse has much of a bearing on his judicial fate, but it does have a bearing on public opinion on related topics. If blaming him gets the fash to shut their hateful gobs for once, I think that's an acceptable sacrifice.
He's a politically convenient suspect, but this time it's for our convenience, and in this world, I see no reason to play by the rules of justice and truth if our enemy doesn't obey them either.
Besides, I find it hard to feel sorry for a gun nut if they get charged with gun crimes.
We should all be gun fans too, on this blessed day
Still not a drag queen?
Nope
3 on one side and 1000 on the other. But hey look there's people on both sides
I keep hearing how things need to stop, yada yada yada, and the dangerous liberals... what?
Usual suspects
They won't.
An important point: Robinson helped Kirk turn to the left as his final act.
It always is
Didn’t he engrave the casings with antifa? Allegedly
the quote going around was a helldivers reference
That’s what the lying media said initially. Also they were engraved with “pro-trans” messages, whatever that means.
Ammo was manufactured by a company called Turan, which puts TRN on their casings.
Yes, that's deliberate and malicious incompetence.
Otherwise known as lies.
There's only one group of people that go around talking about the "lying press" though. They reported what the pigs told them, which is a separate problem.
If he was a conservative, it looks like he was trying for a false flag and just got ratted out by his dad.
not american here.
can someone tell me, what's his motive? The post here saxs he's pro-gun, but why'd he shoot Kirk then?
Nothing has really been revealed officially so far, so only speculation. But he appears to be a "groyper" which is another flavor of young fascist douchebag led by Nick Fuentes.
Nick and Charlie had been feuding recently about one of them not being bigoted enough or some shit. The leading theory seems to be that this may have been related to that.
We don’t really know yet. There hasn’t been any solid reporting on who this young man is and he’s not talking to investigators.
If he did do it and can be easily convicted, keeping the motive secret is a potential bargaining chip to avoid the death penalty.
I would guess Kirk being Pro 2A has nothing to do with it.
So, the real question is, when all these minorities are oppressed, why does a white nationalist shooter aim at a 'colleague'?
because right wingers radicalise people to hate everything except memes and violence.
edited: added inquisitive
Everyone's a little queer for Ma Deuce
Has there been evidence he's Christian and conservative/republican? I know his family is, but that's not really enough.
I'm not attacking the point being made, I just haven't seen any evidence, and would certainly like to.
Not Christian, Mormon which is actually quite the distinction here.
And just because he was raised Mormon does not mean he still follows the faith of his parents.
Evidence he was strictly conservative is slim. There is good commentary about this over on (slight retch) reddit in /r/exmormon including the violent aspects of Mormon scripture and how many Mormons hate both Democrats and Republicans.
Mormons are very conservative. Especially in Utah. They do not hate Republicans, and regularly endorse them and their policies at the pulpit and encourage the congregation to do the same.
Mormons are Christians though. Just because some other Christians don't want them in their club doesn't make their flavor of Jesus worship less valid.
I appreciate that we do all of this research and investigation when folks are white. /s
Also straight? How tf you know that?
Well since there was an engraved bullet that said "if you read this you're gay LMAO" it means he had to have read it at some point while engraving it ergo he is gay. /s
AP News reported he was not a republican but racialized by Kirk's hate speech. Everything else seems spot on.
The christian stuff is debatable since it hasn't been pointed out yet. Just bc your family is, doesn't mean you are. However, it is safe to say he has been taught those values
https://apnews.com/article/charlie-kirk-shooting-tyler-robinson-suspect-d893cc16fb0937d507283c710c551ef0
Doubt he's not a Republithug, those actually love using guns to murder people.
For that matter, does it really matter what group he was a part of? Theres a tendency to try to declare anyone that has done anything objectionable as being part of a group one doesnt like, or at the very least not part of one's ingroup, but that's a bit pointless.
If a group it large enough its more or less statistically certain that it will contain whatever sort of horrible people you can think of, and this includes things like the group of people with roughly the same political alignment as you. Whatever you support or believe in, if it isnt incredibly niche and rare, there are going to be murders, rapists, bigots, and whoever else is terrible out there who agree with you.
It doesnt make sense to fret over that, or to take the existence of one such guy as an argument that a position must be wrong somehow. If a position inherently requires such things, like the position of someone advocating genocide, or if it inherently increases the risks that excess deaths will happen, like with an anti-vaxxer, one can point those things out and say that the position leads to harmful societal outcomes. But the ideology of an individual murderer is almost irrelevant to if the rest of the holders of that position have a point or not.
Morally and logically, it doesn't matter what boxes the shooter checks. In terms of how it will be used in politics, it matters a great deal. It shouldn't, but it does.
This is all I could find that hasn’t been retracted (yet):
Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2025/09/12/what-we-know-charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect/86091474007/
Registered republican and personally donated money to TrumpEDIT: this was shown to be false information
Potentially not, and just the same name https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/fact-check-charlie-kirk-shooter-never-donated-to-trump-campaign/
Either way it pokes yet another big hole in the "bring God back into schools" argument.
The No True Scotsman fallacy is gonna be putting in overtime this month.
Unless his family is the kind that beats their kids for being queer (or recognizing other religions) I don't see a way to confirm that
They're Mormons