A handful of people are slowly killing over 8 billion people, but we're expected to sit idly by and let it happen

I don't have any expectations of any of you.

If any heroes want to take matters into their own hands and deliver some vigilante justice to these parasites, I'd support them.

We can't use the system to fix the system.

Like I always say if you eat enough rich people the other rich people might think the money isn't worth their lives anymore and we could get back on track in the progression.

Exactly. Billionaires should fear for their lives every day.
Hopefully we will see a new word in the English language that ends in -icide and means killing someone solely because they have too much wealth.

If someone stopped them, it would be self defense IMO

“The Earth is not dying, it is being killed, and those who are killing it have names and addresses.”

~Utah Phillips

Inb4 pedant quibbles that “the planet itself is not dying.” Yeah, but we and our fellow creatures are. It should be understood that is what Mr. Phillips meant.

Musk claims there have been people trying to kill him, so perhaps at least a few of us have their priorities in order.

Here's hoping they succeed.
- They'll succeed somehow. Even the awful people who die a 'natural' death tend to die a terrible death because literally nobody wants to treat them properly.
- He's apparently started his own security company so odds are improving.
Always makes me laugh that musk is so surprised people want him dead, He was using his child as a human meat shield and there is even video proof of him abandoning his child when he fell down some stairs.
- Dunno about you, but I wanted him dead when he started throwing Nazi salutes.

thats why you should have the rick and morty version of the PURGE planet.

"You have to respect the democratic process, otherwise you're literally a terrorist!"

While ignoring that fact that the American democratic process was started by terrorists.
- No, they were freedom fighters because we agreed with them.

That handful of people also know how to make an uprising difficult, they realised tiktok was dangerous because people could (and were) using it to inform people about stuff behind the veil they've constructed using their media monopolisation. People were showing war zones atrocities in real time, conflicting with the handfuls narrative, so they hostile takovered it, like the do everything else they want to use to serve their narrative and further their interests. There's power in boycotting, and block lists, but when they monopolise and cause manufactured high cost of living to force you to give them your money (serve them in slavery) it's pretty hard to boycott. I often switch between two daydreams, one where I Thanos them out of existence, and the other where us 8 billion people combine to form "people of the earth" Chuck in a dollar each and systematically buy up all our politicians so they serve us again. Then we all collectively buy everything and share it, so everyone has the basics to be able to live comfortably. Every billionaire is unethical. They're the ones causing destruction of our planet. We kinda need that! If it's not prolonging fossil fuel use and mining, it's creating "ai" that burns triple the power of the whole UK in one data centre. Like fuck!

Side note ai is tripping me out, a little. There doesn't seem to be the costs associated with the levels of usage costs it generates, it's also super not capable of what they're trying to use it for, are they all just super fucking stupid, or is there some nefarious under plot going on?

Tiktok banned accounts that were saying 9/11 was caused by US support of Israel and citing Osama Bin Laden's "Letter to the American People."
We're being herded like sheep.
Every time I see a useful idiot recommend proprietary social media, I immediately think "oh, another dumbass that doesn't realize what's going on. Sad."
The fediverse is fast becoming the only social media to find actual humanity instead of corporate puppets.
AI seems to be the only thing propping up the American economy which is essentially one giant pump-and-dump scheme right now.
It's not actually supposed to lead anywhere, just make a few people a ton of money on the road to enshitification.
We get the shitty version which is just an unreliable shortcut to wikipedia. Meanwhile, they get the real stuff making military plans in the background
Matrix films: The machines turn humans into batteries.
More realistic: The rich humans turn the poor humans into batteries for the machines.

There are some people working on fixing that, but most people don't take them very seriously for some reason.

You are not expected to sit and let it happen, that's what the handful wants you to do.

The best thing that the average person can do is to stop reproducing. No, it won't save the planet or anything. But will prevent them from being victimized.

Well, sad reality is a good percentage of 8 billion people are cheering. They dont understand it or are in so deep in whatever propaganda they believe in, have made they apathatic and or just defeatist.

It’s the 0.1 percent being supported by the 1% who are a lucky day away from joining them, and the 9% who live pretty good lives as rewards for helping the 1%.
Pyramid scheme all the way down
- Yeah, I know people who are in the top 10% and they take pride in looking down on everyone else poorer than them.
  It's a big reason why I don't think the wealth cap and reclamation should stop at billionaires.
- I am talking about bottom ones who are working their ass off neck deep in debt. Who are not benefitting anything but still cheering them making there own pride in religion or straight up licking ass of likes of musk on social media. Personally ive been very demotivated (not defeated) as i try to explain the situation and dangers of insta to my school buddies only to meet with my brain exploding logics and ignorance.
‘Cuz they all think they can win the lottery too. Or if someone sets up barriers to prevent wealth from being absurd that somehow the regular person doesn’t get any money or has to live in Soviet Block housing or something.

No you're supposed to thank them for it

By giving them all your money.

You don’t have to convince all 8 billion people to put a stop to it. It’s just a few thousand evil people. Even a fraction of a percent of the people would be enough to put a stop to it.

3.5% rule
So about 280,000,000 people, about the population of Indonesia.

Be the change you want to see. Make sure you're legally armed and be ready to defend yourself and friends from neo nazis.

There are many places you can't be legally armed. In Canada for example firearms are legal for hunting purposes, but even using one for genuine self defense will lead to lengthy legal battles at best.
- one gets attacked, one uses what one has to defend themselves . That way one lives long enough to see court.
- Then sit there, do nothing, and be a forced bottom.
  There are plenty of ways to defend yourself without guns and explosives.

You're only expected to "sit idly" by the people who want you to stay out of the way. Ideally, you should be expected by society to organize and speak out against it. But getting a bunch of people to organize and fight back is difficult.

People have organized and spoke out. At this point I feel like the only practical option is to [redacted]
The system has trained the peonies to push down any peon that voices any complaints. They all believe that they have a plan and their plan will take them to retirement and anything else isn't their problem.

Yes please, but not before we perfected humanoid servants and the trillionaires are done with the preparations of their lairs.

We've been doing that for quite some time now (beginning from industrialization? Early knowledge about the environmental impact)

"A handful of people"?!

Come on, about 10% of greenhouse gas emissions come from flying. Amd that's done almost exclusively by the common folks, not the tiny minority. A kilometre by train causes 99 % less (electric) or about 70 % less (diesel) emissions per kilometre than an airplane does, and is a viable way to travel, but people still fly. Because they prefer being assholes and kil their own children if not doing.so would inconvenience them evem just a little.

Similarly, feeding one person with red mean causes about as much greenhouse gas emissions as feeding 10 vegetarians. No need to go full vegan, but decreasing consumption of meat would make another 10 to 20 %. And then there are the private cars, something in the ballpark of 5 %.

About a quarter of oyr greenhouse gas emissions are caused.by things that.are completely unnecessary. Yeah, at the moment all of those three would be inconveniences, but only because others don't do the same. High-speed railways take less resources to operate per passenger and reach about half the speed of an airplane (if you take time spent at airports into account), but the service is unusably.bad because everyone flies. And all the nice ready-made food is meat-based, because the other stuff doesn't have enough markets and is therefore too expensive, thus staying on the shelves And also, public transit is not comfortable because it isn't used by the rich, so there's no motivation to.keep it at the level it has in Switzerland, where even the richest typically commute by train.

The greenhouse gas emissions.don't need to be brought to zero fot us to.survive. We common.folk have the capacity to lower them by almost a fifth, which makes a huge difference in pur future Yeah, the remaining 80-ish % is in the hands of the few, but in this case even our 20 % is relevant enough that your excuse is appalling.

So because we can account for 20% of emissions ourselves we shouldn't bother going after those responsible for the other 80%?
- Why do you think we shouldn't? (Or, alternatively, how do you come to a conclusion that someone thinks we shouldn't go after those responsible for the majority of emissions)
  Your thinking is extremely foreign to me and I would be interested in hearing your reasoning!
- I find it hard to believe that emissions would drop by 80% just by getting rid of all the billionaires. Or did you mean all of Western civilization when you said “those responsible for the other 80%”?
You’re right, it’s actually the poors fault! Lol /s what a stupid fucking take. Thanks for adding the same thing to the conversation that oil lobbyists were saying in the 70s
- The oil lobbyists have been saying since the 70's that they are responsible to the biggest share of greenhouse gas emissions?! Please show me even one place where they've made that claim.
Come on, about 10% of greenhouse gas emissions come from flying. Amd that's done almost exclusively by the common folks, not the tiny minority. A kilometre by train causes 99 % less (electric) or about 70 % less (diesel) emissions per kilometre than an airplane does, and is a viable way to travel, but people still fly. Because they prefer being assholes and kil their own children if not doing.so would inconvenience them evem just a little.
The problem will always be price. So travelling to another country? I'm in the UK so it's a bit limiting. But if I want to go to Paris. I picked a week a month away from now. So it should be too expensive, or too cheap. By eurostar the cheapest option is £95, by plane £74.
But the same is true of car vs train in the UK and it's frankly at ridiculous levels. If I want to go into London from where I live (which is in a home county) it will cost £40 for a return on the same day. However if I drive, even in an older car that is subject to ULEZ. Then the cost is:
£12.50 ULEZ £15 congestion charge (although really, there's plenty of places you can park outside the congestion zone but very central to pick up the tube to avoid this) £5 worth of fuel. Parking, depends. At the weekend there are many places you can reliably park for free.
It's always cheaper than the train. But, notably if you park outside of the congestion charge zone, it's significantly cheaper. If you're two people travelling or in a ULEZ compliant vehicle it's entirely a no-brainer. Here's an interesting point. People are happy to park inside the ULEZ but outside the congestion charge zone and take the tube. Do you know why? It's because coincidentally the last train stations outside the congestion charge zone are also the same station the fare is suddenly 2x the fare from the first station inside. Travelling within London on the tube, train and bus is affordable and mostly convenient. Getting in from outside, even a mile outside is not.
They need to fix this. The average person votes with their wallet, with convenience coming second. Train travel needs to be affordable and convenient. If it's cheaper and convenient to use, people will use it and leave their cars at home.
But look, CO2 per mile is way more in a private plane. We really need to be putting MUCH more into stopping that. Just because the total from the normal folk is less than the rich boys (and girls), doesn't mean the onus is on the rest of us. Per person they are doing a lot more to destroy the planet than the hoi polloi.
- By eurostar the cheapest option is £95, by plane £74.
  So, someone gives you a bribe of 21 £ and you are ready to increase your emissions hundredfold for such a paltry bribe? Seriously? With this price difference there should be absolutely nothing unclear about the choice!
  I’m in the UK so it’s a bit limiting.
  It's a bit funny that you're telling that "I’m live smack in the middle of Europe so it’s a bit limiting" to a Finn. Look at the map. Every time I want to go to Central Europe, I need to first take a train to Turku for two hours, then board a ship, sleep on that ship, make haste to the 7:24 train in Stockholm, take that to Copenhagen (and currently there's an extra change in Malmö), then take a train from Copenhagen to Hamburg. I've left Helsinki the previous day at 17:25 and now it's the evening of my second travel day and I'm still only about as close to almost any possible destination than your home is.
  And I can do that. As can 61 000 others (at least that's how many members the Finnish Facebook group for travelling without airplanes has). Your complaints of having to pay 20 pounds more and travel two extra hours to get to France sound... Cutely innocent?
  The pricing of car vs public transportation in Britain surprises me! Over here in Helsinki the cost of having and using a car is about 300 € per month. For some people a bit less, but for example my parents pay on average about 370 € per month for various car expenses. In comparison, the ticket for public transportation here costs only 80 € per month. That's less than a quarter of the costs of a car. And if you want to look at the price for coming from further away, then the ABCD ticket, it costs 119 € per month, still less than half of what a car costs. And that covers already an area 60 km away from the centre of Helsinki. So... I know the car tax is very high here, so buying a new car costs a lot more than in England. But much of the costs of a car come from repairing it, and I cannot imagine that's that much cheaper in England than in Finland. Also, the fuel should cost about the same in both countries. Is the public transport ticket's price in your city something like 200 £ per month, or how can the car be cheaper? I'd be interested in hearing how that works, because no matter how I try juggling the numbers in my head, I cannot really come to the result you're telling. I believe you when you say that the public transit costs more, but I'd be interested in knowing how they've managed to reach that!
  But look, CO2 per mile is way more in a private plane. We really need to be putting MUCH more into stopping that.
  Absolutely! But at the same time, something like 99.99 % of planes' emissions come from the planes used by Joe Average for their holiday trips. I would prefer putting effort into cutting four fifths of those flights away over stopping the private plane flights, because my effort is more efficiently used when it reduces the emissions by 80 % than when it reduces them by 0.01 %. Even if that 0.01 % means that one person is causing as much emissions as tens of thousands of other people together. It's about us staying alive.
Come on, about 10% of greenhouse gas emissions come from flying.
Where the hell did you get that absurd number from?
- Frome some people who are trying to defend flying. I've assumed their numbers make at least some semblance of sense for their argument.
  But true, it's too high. It's more like, 10 to 15 percent of the greenhouse gas emissions from tranportation come from aviation. Which is still significant, but indeed more like 2-ish % of all greenhouse gas emissions. Still, it's one of the sources easiest to mitigate. Agriculture causes over a quarter of all emissions, so that would be the most important thing to look into.
  But also, it's common to only look at the amount of carbon dioxide coming from the exhaust, while planes are problematic largely because they happen to travel at the altitude where their emissions hurt the most. As almost any sources I can find put the aviation's share around 10 to 15 % of transportation's emissions, and it has been so commonplace to ignore the altitude where planes travel, maybe the real number is more like 3 to 5 percent or so?

Ribbit.....ribbit, ribbit

Fun fact... Frogs will at some point realize they're in pain and jump out, no matter how slowly you raise the heat
Maybe it'll be true in humans. Any day now...
Is it getting hot in here or is it just me, ribbit?

Because of climate change? That's not even on the ballpark when it comes to the worst case scenario estimates of the excess deaths because of it. No wonder young people are so stressed out..

I'm pretty sure I'm not currently being killed. Also life expectancy is still rising and people are getting older then ever. Doesn't check out.

That tracks, you're fine so everyone else is, right?
- Yeah and so are the majority of the other 8 billion.
You're being pumped full of microplastics, the climate is being shot so you can make funny AI memes.
But glad you're feeling fine. Keep at it.
- Go think back just any amount of years and check if you'd be off better.
  Or you you know, keep whining while shitposting from the toilet about how terrible you have it.