2d ago

bad news ipv4 fans

Source: https://rivals.space/@deuxnise/115032302416832519

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I'm ignorant enough that I didn't realize this wasn't actually happening until I read the comments. My networking knowledge is piss poor haha.
- Don't worry about the network side of things. It's open source. Before they turn everything on its head would be forked and it would be replaced.
If you don't use IPv6, you are behind. For me the transition was so hard, it's a big step behind me, wouldn't want to do it again.
- I still remember my network lecturer telling us how IPv6 was the future and how we were running out of IPs back in... 1997.
  That same year, during my work placement, I was introduced to Squid and all sorts of network fuckery to compensate for those supposedly disappearing IPs.
Honestly I need an AI to protect my data.
It’s too much atp
A major ISP in the UK still doesn’t have any IPv6 support :( https://www.havevirginmediaenabledipv6yet.co.uk/
- I still don't have an IPv6 address over 4G with Vodafone. I want to run a web server on my phone, isn't this a normal use case? Nat444 makes that pretty difficult, just let me use IPv6!
  
  That's impressive
  Scaling NAT is complex and expensive. They are literally making it harder
  
  Cabled from Vodafone is not much better, ip6 does auto configure from the router with a local address, so it at least supports it. but no routable ips yet.
I believed it for a moment
You got me in the first half 😁
Please, at least 85% of that network equipment hasn't been updated in 30 years and they're not about to start now.
- screams in salt typhoon
IPv4 killed my parents.
- Can confirm, I was IPv4
- I believe it
Followup:
- Truly a legend, if true
- I'm glad that Linus clarified that it was High Resolution Timers. I was honestly thinking they were arguing about Hormone Replacement Therapy.
  
  Given the demographics of Linux devs, it probably would be the latter.
  
  It ended up that way though
- THE TOASTER WILL BE REPLACED.
  Fucking legendary quote from Linus.
  
  It's a shame it's fake.
- Chat, is this real?
  
  Check the alt text.
- Is the raccoon gif real?
  
  none of this is.
- Well I'm not going to switch away my perfectly functional mesh routers that uses IPv4 as using IPv6 on a local net that I may sometimes need to type in manually is rather stupid. And that would also bin my routers, so I'm not doing that either.
  Oh well, I guess it's been fun guys, no more Linux for me due to potential future security issues.
  
  Do you even DNS?
  
  You will do as you're told!
- Truly a Solomonic decision.
- A highly nuclear option. I hope that those developers get their act together in time.
  
  this is a joke btw.
Maybe this will move my ISP to provide IPv6.
Do you want to play a game?
Take your pills, Alice.
I think it is more likely that 95% of network equipment supports IPv6
- Except whatever brings internet to my apartment apparently
  
  Your ISP needs to setup IPv6 which isn't trivial to do from scratch.
  What provider is it?
Maybe this is the push that finally makes IPv6 go mainstream!
- Nah, IPX is gonna take over.
  
  What's IPX?
What's a Gigahon?
- transphobic slur used on 4chan to refer to trans women who do not pass as cis women
  also, injections are the best route of administration for estrogen
  
  also, injections are the best route of administration for estrogen
  people like you are the reason we're losing IPv4 support on linux! (/s of course)
  
  Oof that's way worse than I thought
- https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gigahon
As long as IPv2 support remains intact, I'm good.
/s
- hopefully they also keep IPv1 and IPv3 support too
  
  Not today!
  
  Thanks, Voyager
I need to inflict this reply upon others. It is so gloriously cursed out of context. And in context too.
Linus did a follow-up: https://xn--c8h.fm/notes/abh00crrs1gcja8q
- This is the first time I've seen a punycode domain name in the wild.
  
  Not a very inviting domain is it? Or am I punycodephobic?
  
  I've seen https://xn--gckvb8fzb.com/ before
- Basically told them to shove it up their colon
I'm kind of weirdly horny for Torvalds making unilateral decisions about long running controversies? Tell me what standards are best kernel daddy.
Maybe next he can ban tabs and '\t' from Linux? Everyone indents with spaces now, debate over.
- Seeing as we had a rant only a year or two ago about him (potentially) banning some language (or IDE? I don't remember) from the kernel if it couldn't cleanly handle tabs and spaces, I don't think he's going to ban tabs.
  Wait, as I typed this, I think I remember it better now. He was actually going to start using hidden tabs to fuck with people's IDEs that didn't handle them well.
- I'm sorry, WHAT? SPACES???
  
  You ever find yourself lost for half a day indenting 1000+ lines of code in a random script you opened because the original developer was lazy?
  
  (As a lover of mixed-style and chaos in general, I picked what seemed like the "normiest" option for maximum impact, haha)
ipv6 is great for public networks/ wan or extreme large nets. but for a small local net, ipv4 is so much easier if you need to access a single device. if ipv6 is parallell too, great but I hope ipv4 wont be disabled/ non existens in the future bc of this
- IPv4 isn't compatible with IPv6
  I actually would argue that IPv6 is better even for small networks since it has SLAAC
- I need to make sure you know this is a joke
  
  I need to be told as well.
  Tell me. Tell me now, or I torch my fiber modem!
As a modest proposal, let's just kill anyone who disagrees. These troglodytes had long enough time to get on speed with the world and human progress cannot further afford individuals unwilling to adapt.
Renewal! Progress! Electrification!
Is this real? I thought that Linus has improved his demeanor a bit in the recent years?
- You can easily tell it's fake. Linus would never censor "fuck".
  
  and it would be Linus telling þe committer þeir patch sucks ass.
  
  Thank you for the clarification, I'm stupid and could not tell
- Linus have stated multiple times that he does not break user space, thus this quiet clearly cannot be real.
  
  The kernel has never committed to a guarantee that userspace have IPv4 available. Hell, I'm sure that you don't even need to compile it into the kernel.
  goes and runs make menuconfig
  Yeah, CONFIG_INET=n and you'll have no TCP/IP in your kernel.
  
  IT'S ON THE INTERNET! IT MUST BE TRUE!
- No it's not real, even the follow up has the date of Sat, Aug 15th, 2025.
  Saturday is the 16th.
  There is a lot of other issues people have pointed out but right out of the gate that one is clear sign of it being fake.
  
  Only if you still use the obsolete Gregorian calendar. Linux support for this was dropped as well
- This is not real.
- Is this real?
  I mean, it's a joke in any case, but you mean is it a joke on the linux-kernel mailing list or someone making a joke elsewhere?
  goes to check
  https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/?q=torvalds
  I don't know the purported source of the original text, but the "follow-up" is supposed to be on the 15th to the linux-kernel mailing list. I don't believe that that is an actual email from Torvalds. The most-recent email Linus has sent to the linux-kernel mailing list that shows up here is on the 13th, "Re: [PATCH] cleanup: Fix unused guard error function with DEFINE_CLASS_IS_COND_GUARD".
  EDIT: Also, looking at the list archives, while he does appear to use an indented "Linus" as his signature file, unlike the "follow-up" image, it does not have a leading hyphen.
  EDIT2: Also, looks like Torvalds is in the "surround a word with underscores" school of emphasis, rather than "surround a word with asterisks", a la the "follow-up email".
  
  Since we are not making jokes on feddit (they might upset the mods) it must be LKML. They're known to spend their days fooling around.
- No but it sounds like something that needs to be made real.
  
  Seem to be a lot of IPV4 fans out there
  
  Let us lead the world towards the true belief. By sword and wirecutter. Let the heathens be converted to the true protocol or disconnected. Progress! Renewal! Electrification!
  
  I tried IPv6-only a few days ago, aside from Google and Cloudflare proxied websites, I couldn't load anything.
  
  Nah that would be stupid.
- Nah, eggs don't simmer down until they crack. I'm thinking a name like Sun-il would be cute. Might dictate North Korea later.
Something needed to happen here, we’ll see if even Torvalds has the power to kick massive telecom and consumer electronics conglomerates in the butt. It’s been too long.
My fiber provider started an early rollout of IPv6 like a decade abgo, and it’s been stalled out ever since.
I’m still seeing new consumer electronics being sold even though they’re IPv4 only.
- Screams in Ubiquiti
I still miss IPv5
- I still think about her
- For real, what the hell happened to IPv5?
  
  We don't talk about IPv5.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Stream_Protocol
  
  The same as winamp 4.
Well, if the Injection isn't the best option, you can always resort to patches.
Real
Fine lol
I had a bad start with ipv6. I moved to a new home and ISP switched my new network to ipv6 only (there is a strange ip4 backdoor in case its needed, but shared with others). And this destroyed my wireguard VPN. I called them and was so happy, that they gave everyone who explicit wants ipv4 got it.
Nowadays wireguard support ipv6. Too bad, I never switched back to ipv6 only. But I setup all my DNS records with ip4 and ip6, if they kill ip4. I'm okay with it.
- You could've had it all...
Flush all the tech boomers out and mean more job security for me. I'm game.
So which is the best?
- Injections. Not even close. They bypass the liver, so less stress on that. You get more steady levels, especially if you use an ester like estradiol enanthate. Only have to take medicine once every 1-2 weeks. No awkwardly applying a cream and waiting a long time for it to slowly dry out/absorb. None of the swings in blood levels through the day. No having to remember to take a pill multiple times per day. Injections are clearly the superior choice. About the only thing superior are implants, which last 3-4 months. But those are expensive, difficult to find, and have to be done in a doctor's office. Injections can be done at home or even DIY.
  
  IPvHRT
- IPv6 is 50% higher than 4, so obviously it's better.
About time too.
It's what the open source community voted for
Yes please!

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