bad news ipv4 fans

Followup:

I'm glad that Linus clarified that it was High Resolution Timers. I was honestly thinking they were arguing about Hormone Replacement Therapy.
- Given the demographics of Linux devs, it probably would be the latter.
- It ended up that way though
THE TOASTER WILL BE REPLACED.
Fucking legendary quote from Linus.
- It's a shame it's fake.
Chat, is this real?
- Check the alt text.
Well I'm not going to switch away my perfectly functional mesh routers that uses IPv4 as using IPv6 on a local net that I may sometimes need to type in manually is rather stupid. And that would also bin my routers, so I'm not doing that either.
Oh well, I guess it's been fun guys, no more Linux for me due to potential future security issues.
- Do you even DNS?
- You will do as you're told!
Is the raccoon gif real?
- none of this is.
Truly a Solomonic decision.
A highly nuclear option. I hope that those developers get their act together in time.
- this is a joke btw.
Truly a legend, if true

Maybe this is the push that finally makes IPv6 go mainstream!

Nah, IPX is gonna take over.
- What's IPX?

I need to inflict this reply upon others. It is so gloriously cursed out of context. And in context too.

(youtube) explainer link for the unfamiliar : https://youtube.com/watch?v=ABpT6e-KlOo

I'm kind of weirdly horny for Torvalds making unilateral decisions about long running controversies? Tell me what standards are best kernel daddy.

Maybe next he can ban tabs and '\t' from Linux? Everyone indents with spaces now, debate over.

I'm sorry, WHAT? SPACES???
- You ever find yourself lost for half a day indenting 1000+ lines of code in a random script you opened because the original developer was lazy?
- (As a lover of mixed-style and chaos in general, I picked what seemed like the "normiest" option for maximum impact, haha)
Seeing as we had a rant only a year or two ago about him (potentially) banning some language (or IDE? I don't remember) from the kernel if it couldn't cleanly handle tabs and spaces, I don't think he's going to ban tabs.
Wait, as I typed this, I think I remember it better now. He was actually going to start using hidden tabs to fuck with people's IDEs that didn't handle them well.

I think it is more likely that 95% of network equipment supports IPv6

Except whatever brings internet to my apartment apparently
- Your ISP needs to setup IPv6 which isn't trivial to do from scratch.
  What provider is it?

As long as IPv2 support remains intact, I'm good.

/s

hopefully they also keep IPv1 and IPv3 support too
- Not today!
  
  Thanks, Voyager

Is this real? I thought that Linus has improved his demeanor a bit in the recent years?

You can easily tell it's fake. Linus would never censor "fuck".
- and it would be Linus telling þe committer þeir patch sucks ass.
- He did here:
- Thank you for the clarification, I'm stupid and could not tell
Linus have stated multiple times that he does not break user space, thus this quiet clearly cannot be real.
- The kernel has never committed to a guarantee that userspace have IPv4 available. Hell, I'm sure that you don't even need to compile it into the kernel.
  goes and runs make menuconfig
  Yeah, CONFIG_INET=n and you'll have no TCP/IP in your kernel.
- IT'S ON THE INTERNET! IT MUST BE TRUE!
No it's not real, even the follow up has the date of Sat, Aug 15th, 2025.
Saturday is the 16th.
There is a lot of other issues people have pointed out but right out of the gate that one is clear sign of it being fake.
- Only if you still use the obsolete Gregorian calendar. Linux support for this was dropped as well
No but it sounds like something that needs to be made real.
- Seem to be a lot of IPV4 fans out there
- I tried IPv6-only a few days ago, aside from Google and Cloudflare proxied websites, I couldn't load anything.
- Nah that would be stupid.
- Let us lead the world towards the true belief. By sword and wirecutter. Let the heathens be converted to the true protocol or disconnected. Progress! Renewal! Electrification!
Is this real?
I mean, it's a joke in any case, but you mean is it a joke on the linux-kernel mailing list or someone making a joke elsewhere?
goes to check
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/?q=torvalds
I don't know the purported source of the original text, but the "follow-up" is supposed to be on the 15th to the linux-kernel mailing list. I don't believe that that is an actual email from Torvalds. The most-recent email Linus has sent to the linux-kernel mailing list that shows up here is on the 13th, "Re: [PATCH] cleanup: Fix unused guard error function with DEFINE_CLASS_IS_COND_GUARD".
EDIT: Also, looking at the list archives, while he does appear to use an indented "Linus" as his signature file, unlike the "follow-up" image, it does not have a leading hyphen.
EDIT2: Also, looks like Torvalds is in the "surround a word with underscores" school of emphasis, rather than "surround a word with asterisks", a la the "follow-up email".
- Since we are not making jokes on feddit (they might upset the mods) it must be LKML. They're known to spend their days fooling around.
This is not real.
Nah, eggs don't simmer down until they crack. I'm thinking a name like Sun-il would be cute. Might dictate North Korea later.

A major ISP in the UK still doesn’t have any IPv6 support :( https://www.havevirginmediaenabledipv6yet.co.uk/

I still don't have an IPv6 address over 4G with Vodafone. I want to run a web server on my phone, isn't this a normal use case? Nat444 makes that pretty difficult, just let me use IPv6!
- That's impressive
  Scaling NAT is complex and expensive. They are literally making it harder
- Cabled from Vodafone is not much better, ip6 does auto configure from the router with a local address, so it at least supports it. but no routable ips yet.
I wonder if that site pings an IPv6 address on the virgin network and updates the output automatically based on the ping result.
I'm on Spectrum in the US and their "support" is somehow worse than just not having IPv6. Tons of dropped packets, shifting IP address ranges, and overall a lot of headaches. Tried everything I could to sidestep the issues but there was nothing doing. Eventually I just disabled IPv6 and the issues went away. Maddening.

As a modest proposal, let's just kill anyone who disagrees. These troglodytes had long enough time to get on speed with the world and human progress cannot further afford individuals unwilling to adapt.

Renewal! Progress! Electrification!

IPv4 killed my parents.

Please, at least 85% of that network equipment hasn't been updated in 30 years and they're not about to start now.

screams in salt typhoon

ipv6 is great for public networks/ wan or extreme large nets. but for a small local net, ipv4 is so much easier if you need to access a single device. if ipv6 is parallell too, great but I hope ipv4 wont be disabled/ non existens in the future bc of this

I need to make sure you know this is a joke
- I need to be told as well.
  Tell me. Tell me now, or I torch my fiber modem!
IPv4 isn't compatible with IPv6
I actually would argue that IPv6 is better even for small networks since it has SLAAC
There's almost certainly no future where IPv4 goes away. Not unless people abandon the Internet entirely and look for some alternative built on IPv6 from the start.

I'm ignorant enough that I didn't realize this wasn't actually happening until I read the comments. My networking knowledge is piss poor haha.

Don't worry about the network side of things. It's open source. Before they turn everything on its head would be forked and it would be replaced.
Maybe you shouldn't treat random images you find on the internet as factual until you can verify the content.
- I would have looked it up if the comments didn't speak about it already. Don't worry, I'm not a troglodyte when it comes to actually having critical thinking skills.

Do you want to play a game?

You got me in the first half 😁

I believed it for a moment

Something needed to happen here, we’ll see if even Torvalds has the power to kick massive telecom and consumer electronics conglomerates in the butt. It’s been too long.

My fiber provider started an early rollout of IPv6 like a decade abgo, and it’s been stalled out ever since.
I’m still seeing new consumer electronics being sold even though they’re IPv4 only.

Screams in Ubiquiti

Maybe this will move my ISP to provide IPv6.

Well, if the Injection isn't the best option, you can always resort to patches.

I still miss IPv5

For real, what the hell happened to IPv5?
- We don't talk about IPv5.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Stream_Protocol
- The same as winamp 4.
- It was a little experiment in streaming that never went anywhere. It can be safely forgotten.
I still think about her

What's a Gigahon?

transphobic slur used on 4chan to refer to trans women who do not pass as cis women
also, injections are the best route of administration for estrogen
- also, injections are the best route of administration for estrogen
  people like you are the reason we're losing IPv4 support on linux! (/s of course)
- Oof that's way worse than I thought
- I didn't notice that when I posted this :/.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gigahon

Linus did a follow-up: https://xn--c8h.fm/notes/abh00crrs1gcja8q

This is the first time I've seen a punycode domain name in the wild.
- Not a very inviting domain is it? Or am I punycodephobic?
- I've seen https://xn--gckvb8fzb.com/ before
Basically told them to shove it up their colon

If you don't use IPv6, you are behind. For me the transition was so hard, it's a big step behind me, wouldn't want to do it again.

I still remember my network lecturer telling us how IPv6 was the future and how we were running out of IPs back in... 1997.
That same year, during my work placement, I was introduced to Squid and all sorts of network fuckery to compensate for those supposedly disappearing IPs.

I had a bad start with ipv6. I moved to a new home and ISP switched my new network to ipv6 only (there is a strange ip4 backdoor in case its needed, but shared with others). And this destroyed my wireguard VPN. I called them and was so happy, that they gave everyone who explicit wants ipv4 got it.

Nowadays wireguard support ipv6. Too bad, I never switched back to ipv6 only. But I setup all my DNS records with ip4 and ip6, if they kill ip4. I'm okay with it.

You could've had it all...

Take your pills, Alice.

I tried IPv6 only (with NAT64) and Steam didn't work because it had IPv4 addresses hardcoded :(

I always hard code IPv4 addresses. Load balancing and DNS resolution are an admission of weakness.
(This is sarcasm. WTF Steam?)

It's what the open source community voted for

Can we just treat this as real? Post it everywhere. You know in a sort of "alternative facts" / flat earth sort of way. So maybe the planet finally moves on from ipv4.

Good news is that Google is reporting that >40% of their traffic is IPv6:
https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html
Should crack 50% soon. It's been a long time coming.

So which is the best?

IPv6 is 50% higher than 4, so obviously it's better.
Injections. Not even close. They bypass the liver, so less stress on that. You get more steady levels, especially if you use an ester like estradiol enanthate. Only have to take medicine once every 1-2 weeks. No awkwardly applying a cream and waiting a long time for it to slowly dry out/absorb. None of the swings in blood levels through the day. No having to remember to take a pill multiple times per day. Injections are clearly the superior choice. About the only thing superior are implants, which last 3-4 months. But those are expensive, difficult to find, and have to be done in a doctor's office. Injections can be done at home or even DIY.
- IPvHRT

Honestly I need an AI to protect my data.

It’s too much atp

About time too.

Real

Fine lol

Yes please!

Well, I guess I would move back to Windows and try to find ways to block any IPv6 connections.