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Driver who plowed into L.A. crowd leaving 30 injured, 7 critically, is shot after being attacked by bystanders

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Driver who plowed into L.A. crowd, injuring 30, 7 critically, is shot after being attacked by bystanders

A man was dragged from his car by enraged bystanders and shot after he plowed a vehicle into a crowd in Los Angeles, leaving seven people critically injured and at least 23 others hurt outside a nightclub early Saturday morning, police said.

Cameras in the area are still being canvassed, but the incident appears to have been intentional, according to the Los Angeles Police Department.

Two law enforcement sources familiar with the situation said the suspect was kicked out of the venue for being intoxicated and disruptive.

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1mo ago

Driver who plowed into L.A. crowd shot after being attacked by bystanders

www.nbcnews.com /news/us-news/vehicle-drives-crowd-los-angeles-injuring-20-rcna219740

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If you're asked the identify the shooter, remember: You don't have to.
- Watch them imprison the shooter and let go the driver because car drivers could never do any wrong.
  
  Car-centric culture really is fascinating, isn't it? In a sad, morbid kind of way
  
  But so do gun people...
  
  Tha fuck? 🤣
- You also don’t have to shoot bad people in the back who are already overpowered, beaten up and pinned down by other people. It does not sound like this was a justified self-defense shooting, and I wouldn’t want a trigger happy gun owner like that on the loose in my neighborhood.
  
  Gee, it almost makes a person feel sorry for the guy who plowed his car into a crowd of 30 people, (edit: nearly) killing several…
  /s
  
  Law enforcement has created an environment where people don't trust The System. It shouldn't be surprising when people when people take justice into their own hands.
  
  It's not a choice I'd make, but I'm not going to feel bad for the guy who got shot, or worry about the shooter overmuch. Like the dude will probably get caught and prosecuted but if they investigated, found no history of violence, and decided not to prosecute (unlikely), I'd shrug and not give it a second thought.
  
  Why, are you planning on ramming a car into dozens of people?
  Besides, we've seen that taking the high road doesn't work.
  
  The guy just tried to kill a dozen people in a drunken rage and you think he should get a pass because the crowd caught him?
  Fucker is lucky he wasn't physically pulled into pieces.
  A bullet hole is the least of his worries right now.
  
  You do have a point there, but it remains to be seen what the chain of events is. All the police have released is that he was shot after leaving the vehicle, it could have been after he was on the ground or it could have been right away, after the driver showed his own weapon.
  Even after we find out all of that, the local DA would have to decide whether he could convince 12 people on a local jury that the guy was somehow negligent. I bet any defense attorney would be able to plant enough doubt in any jury's mind to get the guy off.
  Yeah, the police are going to want to find the guy and talk to him, but I doubt he faces any charges unless some obvious new fact comes out that changes the story dramatically.
  
  Yeah, you're absolutely right. But most lemmykins (like maga) will readily abandon all their principles if somebody they don't like gets hurt. Hence your down votes.
- They kicked him out of the club for being intoxicated and belligerent.
  
  No! Guilty until proven super guilty!
Police said they arrested the driver, Fernando Ramirez, 29, who was charged with assault with a deadly weapon. He is currently hospitalized and has not been booked into jail, the LAPD said. His condition was not immediately known.
Funny how I got a New York Times breaking news ™ alert when one Zionist got punched in the face in Colorado a few months ago, but complete radio silence from them about this massive terroirs attack.
- There is a crazy amount of news, both local and otherwise, that the media does not report on. I had no idea just how much until I started working with first responders. That gave me the opportunity to see and hear what actually goes on. There are way more shootings in most large towns and cities than its residents realize. More overdoses, more fires, a crazy number of larceny and breaking and entering calls. A LOT is kept quiet. A few years back, a guy got caught near here with a car trunk full of bombs. He only got caught because the idiot got the car repossessed for non-payment. Not one peep about it in the media.
  
  And honestly that's a good thing. We don't need news hyping every minor crime like Fox News, trying to make you feel unsafe all the time.
  
  I agree that there’s too much violence to cover but Im just pointing out that the New York Times is extremely biased and pro-Israel in their coverage.
Alcohol is legal while pot isn't. And I can't have refills on my sons perscription, or fill it more than 3 days early because someone might "abuse" it. Not supporting an action, just pointing out the absurdity.
- Pot is entirely legal in CA. Stoners are some of the most cautious and calm drivers on the road anymore.
  
  It's still federally illegal.
- Not sure what your son takes but when it comes to people freaking out on alcohol, some prescriptions like Xanax have a tendency to make people act worse. I think it's because people get intoxicated quicker and their brains are like where the fuck am I so they have a tendency to freak out easier. Kind of like a bad trip I guess. I imagine Xanax, Meth, and Alcohol put your odds of something shitty happening at around 1 in 5.
  But on the other hand, it's dumb that you should struggle to pick up medications. Most of our medical field needs to be re-assessed.
  
  Xanax and alcohol are both GABA positive allosteric modulators; taking them together greatly strengthens the effects of both
  
  Xanax is pure death.. Kills your mentality slowly but steadily. At least out of my perspective. Fuck doctors who give that to people 😢 lost some good friends to that shit.
  
  Adhd stims.
  I don’t mind them requiring a perscription, but all the extra crap is really just gatekeeping from the people who need the meds.
  And yeah, mix just about any med with alcohol and you can abuse it (alcohol generally increases speed of absorption). So the dissonance of it being legal while many other things are illegal is only stronger.
- Cannabis is perfectly legal in California and has been for some time.
  
  But still illegal federally... wait until donald want to deport people for smoking pot...
So a man injured several people in a mass attack with a deadly weapon, then bystanders rushed in to stop the man by using another deadly weapon. I’m sure the conservatives won’t have any problem with this, since this is exactly what they say should be done in that scenario.
- They only like 'other' people to be attached by deadly weapons. They will at best, be indifferent because they themselves weren't being attacked.
  They didn't dig it when the Black Panthers started arming themselves.
Sgt. Travis Ward said the driver was shot after the collision, transported to the hospital and taken into surgery. For that reason, he said, police were unable to determine whether he was intoxicated.
Nah. They could have requested a warrant for a blood test while he was in the hospital if they wanted to.
- Doctors tend not to withdraw blood from people with gunshot wounds. Generally they put blood and other fluids into them.
  
  "Nurse, please wring out this blood soaked cloth for the police."
- Probably not much point when they're going to arrest him for running into a crowd.
  
  Presumably they can get testimony from the nightclub staff as well
Using a car as a weapon is disturbingly, horrifically romanticized in the minds of a certain subset of Americans.
Regardless of the driver being shot, I'm actually glad there's a headline of someone driving into a crowd getting pulled out of their car and getting their ass beat. Fuckwads like that need to know they're gonna get fucked up real bad if they try that shit.
Police ask anyone with information about the shooter to get in touch.
I'm ready to come forward. It was Elon Musk.
That doesn't look like the car I was expecting.
....... Try that shit in a small town?
It's quite remarkable that nobody died actually.
Cars are ridiculously dangerous. I don’t think we realize what huge weapons they are.
- IMO, they are far more dangerous than guns. A gun is designed to be used by people who want to live: it takes genuine effort and money to make most shots count.
  A car is far deadlier, provided you don't care about what happens to it. Someone who wants to kill many people on the way out, simply needs to rent a heavy truck on a crowded day and have a lead foot.
  
  It's almost like we need to rethink our urban planning so crowds of people and speeding cars can't meet. Making cities more walkable than drivable has a lot of upsides including this one. Iirc Germany where these attacks occured a couple of times started to place speedbumps around huge public festivals, but that's a half-step where the complete eradication is possible once the street or square is up to scheduled reconstruction.
  
  GTA games showcase this perfectly.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack
- Anyone that took drivers education seriously realizes that.
Don’t do revenge kills, hit em, make them unconscious, pin them down, but don’t revenge kill. It just makes everything worse. Especially for the revenge-killer; there’s a reason why most kill themself after such an act.
- He didn't die, he's in the hospital
  
  Fair, but shooting at someone is always at the risk of killing that person and therefore should only be allowed in absolute last resort.
  At least, that is my opinion.
There’s a lot on back in that one headline
Cool. Now do it to owners of giant useless trucks.
- Are you okay?
  
  They're probably trapped in Florida. Truck culture there is a special kind of stupid.
"Did anyone see who shot him? Anybody....? Helloooo.....?!?"

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