To be honest, I think we should just switch to using "queer" at this point. The Q covers everything. In fact we could just use the letter Q and be like on star trek.
It still makes me uncomfortable as an old fart Gen Xer from back when it was almost exclusively used as a slur, but I recognize it's been reclaimed. It's just a hard association to break.
I just use LGBT+ since it was LGBT for a long time (it was GLBT but the Ls earned their place at the front during the AIDS crisis) then it became LGBTQ, then a bunch of other letters were added while the community was recognizing is profound variety before it turned into LGBTQ+
Q+ has a nice ring to it, but since I'm an unusual form of NB, I fit squarely into the catch-all variety of Q.
Five letters is fine, but I'm not subscribed to the new's letter for knowing what all the add-ons to it mean. It never changes anything for me to know anyway. Just treat people with dignity. "Queer" should be fine at this point for casual use.
In my daily dealings with fellow queers™, I find most people say "LGBT" in casual speech instead of other variations of the acronym, occasionally adding the "Q", but I've never heard somebody casually drop a "LGBTQIA+." I think we all know that LGBT is inclusive; that, or there's a silent ellipsis at the end.
I met someone in a dream last night named Fobertleigh. There is no point to this, The post just reminded me of it.
This sounds like the NPC I make up on the spot when the players ask the guard their name
Pick a name and use it for every guard, except switch the first consonant every time.
They will get a kick out of it a few times, and then slowly learn that there's no point in asking the guard's name.
Lambert, Hambert, Tambert, Kambert, and Dambert all come from a long lineage of esteemed city guards :)
That's kinda neat. Out of curiosity did they tell you their name in the dream or did you just sort of know it?
"Just call me Fob"
not very active yet unfortunately but it was more of a hit than one would think on reddit
It feels to me that at some point, we will just need to do away with all categories. At what point does it stop being useful to keep putting labels on points on a possibly infinite spectrum?
Would it be better to just push for acceptance in all forms? Forget the labels and just be yourself and accept others for who they are? (Barring, of course, people who are evil or criminal, etc)
My personal experience has been one of:i am unsure of my sexuality and unsure of my gender. Eventually, i decided that I wouldn't focus on what gender or sexuality i am since i dont fit into the main categories. i will just be my own category and enjoy my life the way i want to live it.
I know who i am, and i know what i am. I dont need a label to feel secure about that.
Man was enough, and straight was enough to make things easier for me and others. even though i am not quite man and not quite straight. I fit nicely into neither category, but both are close enough that i am content to just say that rather than have to explain myself to everyone i meet.
Anyone who knows me or gets to know me will know who and what i am eventually.
People use labels to get information quickly as a form of vetting.
"You're not... a republican, are you?"
"Oh, hell no!"
"Oh good!"
Now they can let their guard down and be friends. Without labels, determining they are talking to a decent person takes much longer.
You make some good points, and even though the labels man and straight work for me, I have likewise been focusing more and more on the whole "know thyself and live life the way that really works for you" thing and loving it.
But back to my quip: You make some good points. I can foresee how much my dumb angry conservative relatives would hate it! No labels? No categories? Next you're going to tell me that humans don't naturally need strict hierarchy in their society to survive!
"The terms pansexual, omnisexual, fluid and queer-identified are regarded as falling under the umbrella term bisexual (and therefore are considered a part of the bisexual community). Some use LGBT+ to mean "LGBT and related communities".[29] Other variants may have a "U" for "unsure"; a "C" for "curious"; another "T" for "transvestite"; a "TS", "2S", or "2" for "two-spirit" persons; or an "SA" for "straight allies".[48][49][50][51][52] The inclusion of straight allies in the LGBT initialism has proven controversial, as many straight allies have been accused of using LGBT advocacy to gain popularity and status in recent years,[53] and various LGBT activists have criticised the heteronormative worldview of certain straight allies.[54] Some may also add a "P" for "polyamorous" or "pangender", an "H" for "HIV-affected", or an "O" for "other".[14][55] The initialism LGBTIH has seen use in India to encompass the hijra third gender identity and the related subculture.[56][57]"
Only Anglo-Saxons can make not being straight an overly structured and semantically confusing endeavour, lol. 🤷
Only Anglo-Saxons can make not being straight an overly structured and semantically confusing endeavour, lol. 🤷
Except the thing about India at the end of your quote...
I usually only hear LGBTQIA+ which has the I for intersex and the A Aro/Ace spectrum. The Q is just queer which is a an umbrella term for everything. I don't really see the issue with others though, I also wouldn't know how to make it less complicated in any language. Describing oneself as straight is just comparatively easy as it one thing rather than every other sexuality + also gender stuff. Being homosexual is also just one word and no more difficult.
As a way to simplify, I’ve always like GSM: Gender and Sexual Minorities. Seems to encompass everything without prioritizing any of the letters, and doesn’t require choosing an arbitrary stop point for which letters to list or not list.
Interesting that Q essntially fills up for every other character in the initialism, incluing the + which essenially acts as an etc. to said initialism. One can pretty much choose and pick which letters to use when crafting their usage of an initialism, and which letters to hide in the +. One could call it the LBT+ community, or the L+, or T+. Or B+. Or just call it + for maximum efficiency. Or you could just call it the Q community, as Q encompasses everything else. What some otherwise call the Queer community
Edit: I am no expert. Let the gays correct me if needed be
Just say 'queer'
Gay cunts 🇦🇺
The initialism LGBTIH has seen use in India to encompass the hijra third gender identity and the related subculture.
lmao india and their silly anglo-saxons
LGBTIQCAPGNGFNBA+++
Welsh?
Omg, is that Matt Bernstein??!!
Yup. Matt's great. Love the podcast.
NEIGH
I actually love when a new overspelled name comes out. It gives me more fuel for when I screw up peoples names from the short form. Jessleigh, Jessifer, Jessbinder, Jessolomew, etc.
The humour in this to not include 2S+ is the best part
I can't even read this name…
Brightonlee
the most violently british name ever invented "hi, i'm berwick-upon-tweed, nice to meet you!"
Holy shit… Thanks!
Breh, what kid? I just discovered some people make half my rent and live a more meaningfull life.
Btw we live in small appartment, not some luxurious private island you'd expect for that kind of money.
Fuck this economy xD
sorry but as a queer person i'm too exhausted for the stupid alphabet soup bullshit and ive literally never had the energy for peformatively changing the order they go in. im gonna say "queer" and be done now and forever.
I like this, choco
After reading some attempt at a very funny (not) jibe, LGBTOMGWTFBBQ or something, I’ve been thinking how it’s good to use terms/acronyms slightly more difficult for assholes to meme not so that the assholes seem to have won, but to avoid distractions
“Queer”… “LGBT+”… our small monkey brains can handle that I hope and without attracting attention that doesn’t help further a cause
PS: speaking to those who agree mostly, certainly not attacking anyone who prefers six or ten or w/e letters… I ain’t gonna blink if you use it when we talk, just saying to someone who might be likeminded
Canada uses numbers in there's. https://www.canada.ca/en/women-gender-equality/free-to-be-me/2slgbtqi-plus-glossary.html
yeh its for two spirit which is a valid thing and putting it up front is supposed to be about emphasizing that identity and calling attention to indigenous/first nations issues and such, which is all very important and laudable. i don't not get it and i'm not looking to nitpick individual things being included or not i just find it incredibly tiresome overall.
