Do you think the guys on the titanic submarine will be rescued?

The 5 submariners chances of being rescued are very slim at this point but much much higher than the 500 migrants still missing off the coast of Greece who took to the waters not for a joy ride but to escape war and seek a better life.

No, nor do I think they should be. There will be millions of wasted taxpayer dollars wasted on trying to recover rich people's dead bodies. They signed a waiver and knew what they were getting into. There's nothing to be learned from whatever happened, since the company was clearly negligent. Let them rest on the ocean floor beside the other rich assholes.

Probably not the worst way to go all things considered.

I suspect they imploded.

These super deep subs are traditionally not reused very long, because the stress of the water pressing and then releasing weakens them. The more compression-decompression cycles they take the faster they degrade.

From all the reports, they got a lot of reports of issues that they ignored. I read that one of the reporters who saw it found it to be very jury rigged together. Apparently it was not certified in any way.

Even if they did survive and the ballast worked correctly, they would surface quickly (decompression sickness?) and cannot open the hatch from the inside. The thing doesn't float above the water, so its going to be a pain to find. Also they didn't paint it bright orange with blinking lights, its white, gray, and blue.

Overall, a lot of poor decisions and ignoring advice lead to disaster.

Just imagine, these idiots spend 250k to sit in a iron tube controlled by a cheap offbrand playstation controller but won't spend any of their money to improve the world. Only satisfying their own ego and greed. I can't feel sorry for them, best I can do is hope that they imploded so they didn't have to suffer too long.

Sadly I don't think so. This incident was absolutely preventable. Someone warned them about this and they got fired. A makeshift vessel that wasn't inspected/certified, immersed to almost 3 times the rated depth, controlled by a wireless Logitech gamepad from 2010 with no redundancy and only 96 hours of oxygen. I really really hope for a last minute miracle though...

Found yes, alive no.

I'm a bit confused that this is receiving so much attention. What's so special about this case compared to all the other cases of people being lost at sea every year, besides them being rich?

Seeing the construction of the submersible, I would not have ridden it... As soon as the inventer said "I got these from, uh, camper world.." I would be scurrying the hell out of that thing...

Apparently the acrylic viewing window was not rated for that depth, and the body of the submersible is constructed from carbon fiber... That whole rig seems sketchy as hell to me...

These billionaires just bought themselves something money can't buy, a footnote on a Wikipedia page somewhere that their deaths were loosely related to the Titanic.

Given that every billionaire has blood and suffering on their hands in at least ab abstract fashion and it's hard to feel sorry for them too.

I don't think that this is the right question for this community, but I'm not optimistic on their rescue.

Even under ideal conditions, the ocean is enormous, and even with all things going well, finding a properly-equipped submarine that wants to be found, can be a bit like a needle in a haystack, at least according to people with more naval experience than I.

I hope that they would be rescued, since suffocating to death in a metal tube that's sealed from the outside seems like rather a horrid way to go, but at the same time, the submersible that is lost was not particularly well equipped. The control system was a wireless game controller which was infamous for having dropout issues. Using controllers is fine and all, since they're often used in commercial and military applications due to their intuitiveness and better ergonomics (plus the manufacturer doesn't have to design and build a new one from scratch), but using one that was infamous for having connection problems was rather tempting fate.

The lost submersible also didn't have anything like an emergency beacon that could be used to locate them, and it was sealed from outside. Even if they managed to resurface, anyone aboard would still be trapped within the tube, unable to get out.

Highly doubt it. I've been watching coverage and it seems pretty unlikely they will be found before their oxygen runs out (assuming they are even still alive and haven't died as a result of an implosion).

What irks me with all the coverage, however, is that no one is pointing out the potential harm to all the people involved in trying to rescue these people. The Coast Guard and other outfits undertaking the rescue attempts are put in danger the whole time they are out there. And of course there's the cost involved as well.

Wishing death on people is a very garbage take

Folks, the Titan submersible is a capsule that travelers are sealed into ** from the outside.** The passengers could be adrift on the surface, the air could run out, and they could theoretically suffocate on the surface. It's locked with bolts from the outside. Yeah, the 96 hours of oxygen could be stretched if the passengers conserved their oxygen. That is, if they are not a part of the debris field that was located near the Titanic. Each passing minute now is increasingly likely to change this from rescue to recovery.

A couple things are potentially different from how op laid them out. (From my understanding)

The vessel was designed to automatically begin resurfacing after a set period of time underwater, even without pilot input, so it might not be very deep at all. The problem is it doesn't sit very high in the water and is very hard to see.

They don't necessarily have 2 days of oxygen left, those were calculated values, and there may be other gaseous build ups that impair the totally oxygen supplies.

I hope it was over quickly for them, I don't know how you could resurface that type of vessel without breaking it. I hope we will find evidence and be able to piece together what happened, but I suspect it'll just be lost at sea. I don't think there's any conspiracy up keep evidence away from the public, I think most people underestimate how difficult it is to find 4 cubic meters inside a 10 cubic kilometer area, hell that would be hard without that area being covered in water.

My understanding is that chances are slim to none. I understand that whatever malfunction happened that cut the contact, has some likelihood to have been a much greater malfunction than just radio, and that they’ve quite possibly already been dead a while.

And even if not, my understanding is that they’re scanning a massive swath of sea and it’s very much a needle-in-a-haystack situation. I wouldn’t be surprised if the only reason such an unlikely operation is taking place, is because the people involved can afford it.

Rescued? Maybe. Rescued alive? Doubtful.

It really depends on how they went. Sudden implosion of the hull, quick and easy.

Floating around for days until your air runs out, wondering if someone will find you... Not so much.

At this point, I think they have less than 24 hours of air left, so I highly doubt they'll be alive when/if the sub is found

I'm gonna go out on limb and say they're no longer with us.

unlikely. sub rescues are hardly successful. Their sub could have imploded, fast way to die. Had a power failure wich would takes days to die either from a lack of o2 or possibly the cold. Or it reached the surface and they got to look out at thet ocean until about noon their time tomorrow unable to open the hatch and slowly die from a lack of air.

I think a better question would be "Should they be rescued?". Billionaires are a stain on humanity. You simply do not need that much wealth for any valid purpose.

From what I've heard by experts, no. That chance is now extremely slim. Basically they then need to be found on the water surface. It's a complex logistical challenge to lift a submersible at these incredible depth. I think certainly not done over a day or two even working around the clock.

And what's worse now is they've apparently heard banging noises which indicates they are submerged. :-(

Nope.

Sadly, I think they are screwed, they either imploded, they are trapped and dying/dead somewhere with no means of rescue, or possibly surfaced with no comms and stranded somewhere. They ded.

I told my wife last night that I was glad to be broke for once in my life, lol

I don't like millionaires/billionaires but I wouldn't wish that kind of harrowing ordeal on anyone. I hope they survive somehow.

Unlikely. Even if they could find the sub, safely raising it or somehow docking with it would take too long. They’re almost out of oxygen, so that thing is a sarcophagus at this point.

At this point, I'd be surprised if they were ever found. Assuming the sub is still intact and not wondering aimlessly, the sheer size of the search area makes it difficult to find the sub.

Nope. Our orca friends made sure of it.

I think we all hope they get rescued but if they are on the bottom of the ocean the odds are not in their favor. Even if they are located in time it will take forever to attach a line to the craft and pull it up.

Why didn't they have a plan of action for this? Why did they not think to put a location beacon on the craft, or a means of communication????

I don't like billionaires but of course I wish for their miracle survival. As unlikely as it seems.

And if they don't make it, I hope it was a quick and painless death for all of them...

I would say that all reasonable efforts should be made to rescue or recover anyone and everyone who has gone missing. We can figure out the rest once we exhaust all optons, or have them back on the boat.

Probably not. Pretty shitty way to go out to be honest.

No. Chances are high that that submarine just imploded in a millisecond and they just instantly died. Why else would it stop sending pings and completely dissappear otherwise?

I think they are gone. Safety regulations are a thing for a reason.

I mean, I hope they survive but I'm not holding my breath.

Short answer: no

Long answer: NOOOOOOOOOOO

Nope sadly a 250k coffin

They are lost. Even if they found them alive, they can't transfer them off the vehicle. they are even bolted in. the shell is made from 5 inch thick spun titanium carbon fiber with a bonded ring and a metal cap on each end. the pressure vessel most probably shattered then everything got squished.

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Is this the actual sub? It's just a tube, this looks awful.

Negative. I don’t think we’ll even find wreckage, and if we do, reaching it will be difficult and expensive.

They fucked.

With all the news I keep hearing. I dont think they will survive. I guess thats one less billionaires in the world. Probaby for the better.

They forgot to charge the pad and didn’t bring the USB cable, so no. They’re doomed, unfortunately.

Sadly no. It probably had a leak and everyone was instantly crashed like a pop can…

I think there's a chance they succumbed to hypothermia long before they ran out of oxygen.

The submersible was suppose to automatically lose it's ballast and surface on it's own in an emergency situation, and that didn't happen. A reasonable explanation for this is that it imploded.

A swedish submarine officer put it bluntly in an interview today, and i paraphrase: "most likely it developed a crack and instantly decompressed like a crushed soda can"

What a horrible way to go. Hopefully rescuers succeed.

That being said, judging by the photo, if they are still viewing everything through a screen, what was the point going down with the submarine and not just sending a robot with a video feed?

Do you think the guys on the titanic submarine will be rescued?

A couple billionaires

I hope not.

Being realistic, they're probably gonna all be dead, and may never be found

"currently stuck" is a euphemism - they are dead. They are gone.

Idk sounds pretty bad to me

If you're dumb enough to wedge yourself into a sardine can then you may as well sleep with the fishes

Either way I hope someone like James Cameron makes a movie about it. A 21st century Das Boot could be good

Best thing they can do is for most of them to go to sleep and conserve oxygen. Good luck sleeping while afraid for your life though.

The cognitive dissonance displayed here is appalling. So many envious and evil fucks showing zero empathy for other humans dying a terrible death just because they have more money. Jesus fuck, people. If your life view makes you that uncaring of other humans then you need to pick a new life view or start getting on submarines yourself. You sit on the internet gleefully relishing in the deaths of others like that makes you more compassionate of poor people somehow?

Gross. You people are gross.

With the current situation, no. If by some miracle they can restore communication to the surface then they might be able to call for help to pinpoint their location, otherwise it's likely death for them.

I think they discovered the crush depth of their sub was a little shallower than they thought it would be, and are all already dead. The search team says they heard a banging sound, but they’re next to a huge old wreck full of old garbage that is a probably the source of a lot of banging sounds.

I don't think it's looking good. If they're at depth, I don't even know how they would be rescued

Lost subs don't tend to have happy endings. Was there ever a successful rescue at all?

A bunch of billionaires bite the bullet on a dumb, rich tourist expedition? Lol why should anyone care?

1st thing I thought when I heard they were missing is, yep, it was an iceberg.

If they're not already dead, they're going to be soon. The capsule has no hatch and can't be located, let alone dragged back to the surface. They were fucked the second they bolted that death trap shut.

No.

Suffocating? I’ve heard it’s panic inducing and awful, not my first choice.

I feel like they will take their place among darwin awards winners. a shocker to everyone (sarcasm) rich folks aren’t always the brightest.

Doubt that these guys will be found alive. Maybe in a few years someone will find their submarine

Nope.

If the sub imploded yes. If it reached the surface. The worst. The sub can be open only from the outside.

I think the sub imploded hours after they lost connection.

Hard to tell, it's all about luck at this point. Latest news are

"Canadian P-3 aircraft detected underwater noises in the search area," the U.S. Coast Guard tweeted early Wednesday morning. "As a result, ROV operations were relocated in an attempt to explore the origin of the noises. Those ROV searches have yielded negative results but continue."

The data from the P-3 has been shared with U.S. Navy experts for further analysis, the Coast Guard added.

Source: https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/missing-titanic-tourist-submersible/uscg-canadian-aircraft-detected-underwater-noises-but-search-yielded-negative-results-100264346?id=100224153

I have no idea, but saw someone on the news saying that the chance is not high that they recover it in time

The only outcome we can be sure of at this point is that the company responsible for this mess is going to have to answer a lot of questions.

I think they are dead right now, probably the sub just imploded

Do you mean imploding? Because if they didn’t implode, being stuck in a sub for days, slowly waiting to suffocate, ist fucking horrible.

I bet thousands had a worse end in Ukraine these days.

If they're deep down, it's unlikely. A good outcome would be something failed, but they could get up and are now lost on the surface, but from everything we've read about this it doesn't seem likely either.

I've read that the sub in question was only rated for 1300 ft, and they were taking it on dives of up to 4000 ft. Unless the sub surfaced as part of a safety protocol, there is an exceedingly high probability that the sub imploded and killed everybody.

At this point, no. As I'm writing this comment, they barely have an hour of oxygen left. Yeah, they're dead for sure.

My guess is money will save them. I'm only slightly joking

The rescue would be miraculous. So, no. Sadly.

Well, they've got 9 hours and 20 minutes of oxygen supply left as of this post.

People hating coz they billionaire 😖. Pray for them, hope they survive

THey dead

They're reporting hearing bangs underwater, so hopefully at least one of them is still alive.

Probably not but shit to hear them die in a sub cool place to die tho

No, they're already dead. Most likely the sub cracked under the water pressure, instakilling them. Or they froze to death. Or they ran out of air; they have oxygen but no CO2 scrubber.

nope. with the amount of time they've been down there so far and the volume of space inside the thing, they would have exhaled enough CO2 to have all at least lost consciousness if not suffocated

I think they're going to make it bros. We're all going to make it.

depends on if its o2 depletion or implosion

the second one is quick and easy. the first one would be tough. imagine dying breath by breath. most people aren't afraid of death, it's the dying part...

I think if someone wants to dive to the wreckage of the Titanic again, they should ask the Russians for the Mir bathyscaphe, which definitely works reliably.

Nope sub rescues are hard in shallow lakes. In the deep ocean they are boned. Unless they surfaced consider them dead

They're out of air by now. They ded.

They should given cyanide pills to everybody in that metal pipe, like they did for all the missions to the moon.

Apparently not. It imploded. They've found a debris field.

I just checked the BBC news website. The sub wreckage has been found. They are confirmed deceased.

This may be too soon but l/agedlikemilk. Yes, I know it doesn't link it, yes I know it's not reddit, hell I don't even know if the agedlikemilk subreddit is on Lemmy, but it's the thought that counts.

lol no

i hope so.

I think the difference is in knowing where the capsized ship is and having a survivor count at all.

Meanwhile it’s a race against time for an unknown location of a submersible that sits in a relatively rare class for depth.

I’m not that hopeful but regardless of who they are, it’s a rather distressing thought putting yourself in anyone’s shoes from either incident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99J809CX_FU

There is hope

Go ESG? Die at sea.

I guess refusing to hire “experienced 50 year old white men” to build and safety check the sub bit him in the ass, didn’t it?

Poor pilot :(

This could have been easily avoided by having a cable between the ship and the sub no? Seems like a sensible safety option...

How so? Seems like a shit way to die to me. It’s not fast. Plus you are crammed in with a bunch of other dudes.

I guess once you pass out from anoxic brain injury, it might peaceful.

who cares? just a bunch of rich idiots..

I don't think they will survive. What a horrible way to go. :(