Trump’s spell has been broken | The US president is hurting rather than helping his ideological allies such as Nigel Farage
Trump’s spell has been broken | The US president is hurting rather than helping his ideological allies such as Nigel Farage
The US president is hurting rather than helping his ideological allies such as Nigel Farage.
Summary
Donald Trump's influence on global right-wing politics is waning as his association increasingly becomes a political liability.
In the UK, Nigel Farage's popularity has dropped, with 53% of Reform Party supporters now viewing Trump unfavorably. This shift undermines Farage’s chances of political success.
Internationally, leaders like Canada’s Pierre Poilievre and Italy’s Giorgia Meloni are distancing themselves from Trump.
Meanwhile, Trump's economic promises have faltered, with US growth forecasts down and stock markets struggling.
The fading appeal of Trumpism marks the end of his ideological hold on Westminster politics.
Jon Stewart made a joke about how dems keep saying the right-wing “fever” is going to break. He showed clips all the way back to Obama.
DOGE gutting the goverment and randomly firing tens of thousands of people. Social Security at risk. The VA at risk. The Department of Education - dead. The stock market in correction territory. Consumer confidence down. People protesting at Tesla stores. Children dying of preventable diseases. Massive crowds showing up for AOC and Sanders. At war with our allies as we randomly deport people...
Checks approval polling for Trump - 49%
The stuff you mentioned only matters if people know how to vote in their own best interest, and they don't. All the Tesla protesters and the AOC crowds likely voted Democrat anyways. Nobody's mind has changed.
I think that can start to change in the coming months. On April 2 Trump's full tariffs are going into effect. There will be a retaliatory response from the whole world. But make no mistake. If the election were held again today Trump would still win.
The Onion likely did it first. Regardless it’s funny either way.
Yeah, it's not a fever, it's more like a reversion to our primitive mean. That being said, actually doing things they have to defend is what made fascism uncool the first time.
He even went all the way back to the 90s
The WALLS are CLOSING IN on him!
Glad the rest of the world is learning from our mistake.
It's weird, because there's inarguably been a 'vibe shift' away from the more authoritarian side of progressive ideas and politics, and for a while it seemed the backlash was unstoppable and far-right. I hope we are starting to see a 'vibe shift' away from the extremes of the right, too. It can't be healthy for a society to swing from one extreme to the other. I suppose social media, and the difficulty with communicating nuance on such platforms is partly, maybe wholly, to blame.
Yes, thanks America. You're finally up on the cross with the best of them.
(I'm sorry this is happening to you, OP)
America needs to fail for humanity to succeed.
That's, frankly, copium. Give them a few years and they'll be even stronger than they are now as liberals all over screw up.
Yup. In several countries, including my own (Portugal), the 'far right' who tends to repeat Trump's talking points is raising red flags all over.
Poilievre in Canada, Farage in the UK, the whole AfD/Musk/Vance debacle in Germany, and so on. And many of these parties were gaining strong traction with each election. Now Trump's image association with them might as well be a radioactive label.
I hope you're right, but I'm not convinced we can draw conclusions yet. Starmer's government is not popular and while Farage has been a joke at home among many, he never drops out of the picture because he has a lot of international far-right support and consequently a lot of money. Brexit was obviously stupid and happened; giving Farage power would be similarly stupid and I'm not sure it couldn't still happen. In Germany the AfD is still too strong, though not quite as strong as it had hoped. In Canada I hope people have finally seen through Poilievre, but again Canada underestimates the Trumpist/convoy/PP people at its peril, and while Carney is sending a lot of good messages the kind of liiberalism he represents has not traditionally done well in holding off the fascists.
The thing is that Centrist neoliberal politics is completely on appealing to anyone, and the far right has capitalized on that by fighting an alternative that blows but it Taps into racism so they're able to achieve some success against competition that doesn't even pretend to care about you or fight for anything other than billionaire profits. That's also why Unapologetic left-wing parties can also do well sometimes when not actively suppressed. Even stuff like Bernie Sanders and AOC's rally tour shows that people something different than what we have, and they don't seem to be too picky about what it is specifically. If we can convince them that the left wing side offers them a better life than the right wing we can beat them
Just a little while ago, Rui Rocha, leader of IL (liberals, but now they are more like libertarians) was saying that we had to adopt an efficiency department like DOGE. Apparently they don't believe that Trump and Musk's image can damage theirs.
I don't see why AfD would have any problem with USA leadership. They both want to normalise Nazi rhetoric, and Musk is helping a lot. Same in France with the RN
I just don't get it. He could have used the Defense Production Act to lower prices of eggs and he would have been a HERO to the working class idiots that voted for him. He would have ensured that no Democrat ever wins another election. Instead he was like, "Y'all are about to be poor for awhile while I do the dumbest shit you've ever seen. Watch this shit. Fuck your egg prices, I'm going to pretend to steal Canada, Greenland, and Panama City Beach or some shit."
That's assuming he's even considering that there will be future elections. Or at least elections in which the oligarchs have a chance of losing (I'm still betting Trump plans on living forever and never ceding power because narcissist).
In Canada, both parties are accusing each other of being aligned with Trump
One clearly is though
Benny Hill music intensifies.
In Britain our most powerful parties are competing to kiss Trump's massive arse - our Prime Minister 'likes and respects Trump'. Honestly, Starmer, get a room! Ugh! I am sick of being shamed by my politicians.
I hope Canada elects leaders who will tell Trump to get lost. You need Zelenskyy energy. You deserve it. Give 'Uncle Spam' hell, Canada!
Man starmer is such a disappointment... I was so happy for my British cousins when you finally voted out the Tories, but it seems like there's barely any change in the policies or even just vibe..
Trump's playbook is Attack, Deny and Never Admit Defeat. This is no joke, he's not going to let reality spoil the party.
Yeah, he's a malignant narcissist. You just described their playbook. DARVO: Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim/Offender. They have no accountability, they constantly blame and accuse their victims, and they absolutely NEVER apologize for their disgraceful behaviour, because it's always your fault, not theirs.
I'm willing to bet that they get a "2nd wind", where some kind of tipping-point removes obstacles to their dismantling of our world's civilization..
It was Richard Stutely's book "The Definitive Business Plan" which identified that there is ONE thing that startups & businesses planning a market-expansion NEVER do:
understand the opponent's countermeasures.
Is anybody looking into the right-wing discussions, to see how they are going to rally/adapt/evolve?
XOR is this just "looking at the foam on the sea & making pronouncements on the rip-current's 'not' existing"?
Further, there is a tipping-point crossed, in the US, whereby it's irreversible: there simply is no way for the US to get back into representative-republic territory, now: too much got dismantled, already, & it isn't slowing-down.
In Europe, they're still working-on getting that far, right?
& the Heritage Foundation, the original puppetmasters designing Trump's whole operation..
https://www.project2025.observer/
( that tracks their breathtaking accomplishment-speed )
now working on Europe..
that is about their plan to dismantle the EU for themselves..
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/09/a-guide-to-project-2025/
for 1 window into what their plans are.
Do the anti-fascist-"society" forces within the countries outside of the US have enough pragmatism, enough objectivity, enough uprightness, to resist the Combined Arms ( attacking from ALL angles possible, until the opponent fails ) assaulting of the far-right, for their converting-the-Western-world-to-a-bunch-of-Russias-owned/ruled-by-them??
.. I am not betting on it, tbh.
Responsibility & accountability are both their enemies, but both responsibility & accountability are the enemies of .. ALL political-entities??
Politics itself opposes responsibility & accountability, doesn't it?
Which sets the underlying problem thus:
IF politics opposes both responsibility & accountability, because it wasnt ONLY authority-on-others,
AND ALL the political-factions are working to have political-authority-on-others,
THEN .. how the hell could anybody get what political-motivation doesn't want, accountability & responsibility, to be the core of any political-"answer"??
The political basis for any countermeasure hamstrings its trueness-of-aim!
To me, this identifies that politics, itself, has to be removed from ruling our world: its nature won't allow the integrity required to keep us alive, during The Great Filter, when political-tantrum, religious-tantrum, ClimatePunctuation, food-chain-degradation/collapse, panic-migrations, totalitarianism, etc, all vie for being the "ruler" of the world, while we try to NOT face our own unconscious-mind's bulling-ignorance ( which created this whole mess, & which would rather kill us completely-off than force-grow-up ).
Find 1 country which has the integrity to remove political-motivation with successful machiavellianism, from being significant in its representatives' government..
I don't believe there is 1 on this world.
Yet it would require a majority-of-NATO to do exactly that kind of thing, to survive what's gradually blowing-up-in-our-faces..
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He's a cult leader. Cult leader's spells are only broken when they die.
PP is distancing himself from Trump?? OK. He really just changes with the political wind. He has no convictions, ideologies, or principles that he’s willing to stand behind. He just spouts whatever he thinks will garner him votes. Canadians! Get out and vote on April 28th! We need an experienced and steady Captain at the helm for the rough waters ahead. VOTE CARNEY, VOTE CARNEY, VOTE CARNEY
I do worry though for a sort of dig in in their policies. Similar to Putin before the invasion. A lot of the far right said that "yes, a strong autocrat, masculin, anti-woke, homophobic person like Putin would be the saviour of Europe". Now some of them, like almost split in the middle, stopped saying "those things are good, look at Putin", but lost no support after the invasion. With Trump its going to be a similar thing, is my worry. "Yeah, but Trump is a bafoon, but massdeportation, autocracy, and capital's control over the government are still important, we will just to ot the proper way" is what it will move to. And of course a lot of europeans, even on the far right, will breath a deep sigh of relief that they can call Trump a bafoon. I think, or worry more like it, it will marginally affect the support for the fra-right, if at all, the liberals that has not already joined the far-right or the socdems will try to shoehorn in a comparison to Trump at every argument, and they will get nowhere.
Small PP isn't distancing himself from Trump, he's just lying about it
God I hope so
Yeah lets hope this effect is seen nationally as well.