6mo ago

Sanders Moves to Block Weapons Sales to Israel

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6mo ago

Sanders Moves to Block Weapons Sales to Israel

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Would somebody in Congress please listen to Bernie Sanders for a change?
- Sorry, Congress is allergic to success.
Clearly, Bernie Sanders is an antisemite. He's attempting to stop genocide. How dare he?
If only this dude was allowed to be the Democratic front-runner in 2016. Things could be so much better…
This isn't really a big news story, Bernie has been doing this pretty consistently. Yes, he was doing it under Biden too. Yes, this is purely performative, it won't have enough votes. No, this isn't antisemitic.
- It won't get enough votes, but it will force people to vote and show who they really are.
- He did not criticize Biden during his entire genocide. Bernie supports the actions of Israel
  
  He stuck (and is sticking) to the party line way too much for way too long, which is something you can criticize him for, but "Bernie supports the actions of Israel" ain't it.
Bernie is literally the only politician I would trust with this country at this point. What a bunch of fuck ups and morons
- Meanwhile in an another universe: "President Sanders and vice President Ocasio-Cortez congratulate Ukraine for becoming the newest member of the EU and NATO just a year on from a shock invasion and repelling the former Putin regime from the region"
- Thats the biggest flaw with democracies. Stupid sticks together.
Meanwhile, no one is listening to the real government.
Netanyahu’s “defense” is mass civilian slaughter, funded by U.S. taxpayers. Sanders calls it what it is.
😺😺😺😺😺
Now that Trump is in office. Bernie ignored the children being bombed in Gaza for the past 16 months because he is a Democrat shill.
- He tried to stop the weapons last year as well. Because Bernie is not a shill, he's pretty fucking cool.
  Which is why the media often goes out of their way to ignore him.
  
  He did not criticize Biden or Kamala at all and you know that. you're also a Dem shill
- Stop spreading false info. Maybe he isn’t doing it to your particular liking but he is fucking doing it and you’re all over this thread saying the opposite.
  2024 Scoop: Sanders seeks to block $20 billion in arms sales to Israel
  2023 Sen. Bernie Sanders says aid to Israel should be conditional, citing the toll on Gaza
  
  I did not lie, in those articles he did not criticize the Biden administration, and did not criticize Kamala for her stance on the genocide.
  He has approved many arms sales to Israel, you are a hypocrite
- I'm pretty sure Bernie doesn't like you either. I don't like you.
  
  Good, because I'm an actual socialist
I don't think we should give away weapons to Israel, but why should sales be blocked? Israel has a right to defend itself.
- I think what they’ve done is far more than merely defending themselves.
  Yes, Hamas is evil and did heinous things to the Israeli people, but the response was disproportionate and targeted civilians. Even the lowest estimates show that one in every fifty people in Gaza have been killed, and that number includes mostly women and children, not combatants. Heck, other estimates show nearly double that death toll.
  And let’s not even start on the forced displacement of almost a million (!!!) people.
  
  Don't forget the public admission from Israel that they want to kill everyone in Gaza that doesn't leave.
  
  Yes, Hamas is evil and did heinous things to the Israeli people, but the response was disproportionate and targeted civilians. Even the lowest estimates show that one in every fifty people in Gaza have been killed, and that number includes mostly women and children, not combatants. Heck, other estimates show nearly double that death toll.
  This. It goes far beyond reckless, far beyond callous; it's literal genocide.
  
  My friend the real death toll could be ten times the 40k killed I'm being told by the media. I don't know, I've never been there. Everything is so fucked it's hard to know who to believe.
- To add to what the other guy said: As Hamas is an insurgency working in territory that Israel is illegally occupying, Israel does not in fact have a right to defend itself. It has no right to do anything except get the fuck out of Gaza (including its territorial waters and airspace).
- Do Palestinians have a right to defend themselves?
  
  They attacked Israel
- don't feed the troll
- The money for these "sales" is aid from the US government.
  Israel is unique in that they are the only country that gets its aid from the US government on January 1st, with interest, in cash. They have to use a part of it on American weapons and the rest they just get in cash.
  I'm sure Sanders also has a bill or intentions to stop that, but that would be a separate bill.
  
  Then don't give it to them for free
- Troll detected. Could be an incel too.
  Don't feed anyway.
- Yeah with genocide.... fuck Israel, they are trash humans.
- It's actually just a limitation of the weapon system. Unfortunately, they switched to the foreskin guidance systems.

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