one third plus one half of one third is one half.
I think thats an issue with AI, it has been so much trained on complex questions that now when you ask a simple one, it mistakes it for a complex one and answers it that way
Sure, but, what does that have to do with the AI answer? Wait.. Are you an AI?
Now ask it if a Third-of-a-Pound burger is bigger than a Quarter Pounder
Did Google train Gemini on American dataset?
Not even moderately helpful for printer questions.
80 year old grandmas trying to find the Ctrl and Alt buttons on her printer...
Did she look under the battery?
What, your printer doesn't have a full keyboard under its battery? You've gotta get with the times my man.
LLMs can't math
The math is correct. One third (2/6) + half of one third (1/6) = one half (3/6, aka 1/2).
The Internet is very confidently stupid.
Ironically the one thing computers are normally good at.
yea
Google's AI seems dumber than the rest, for example here's Kagi answering the same (using Claude):
edit: typoed question originallyPerhaps Google's tried to make it run too cheaply - Kagi's one doesn't run unless you ask for it, and as a paid product it'll have different priorities.
There are two meanings being conflated here.
"1/3 more" can mean "+ 1/3" or "* (1 + 1/3)“.
So "1/3 more than 1/3" could be 2/3 or 4/9, but not 1/2.
Instead 1/2 is 1/2 more than 1/3, not 1/3 more. That's the meme I've seen go around recently.
Yes, and the Google AI response is correct (and quite clear) in what it says.edit: Thanks Batman. I mean that Google's understanding of the question is logical (although still the maths is wrong as you say (now I've re-read you)) and its answer explained the angle it was answering from.However, I think the reasonable assumption for the intention behind the question is relative to a whole. I had third of a pizza, and now I have an extra sixth of a pizza. It's subtle, but that's the kind of thing AI falls down on.
Kagi has Claude built in? I've been using it for a year and didn't know that.
This is why Kagi is a great company.
Nobody is getting LLM functionality shoved in their faces unless they wanted to.
This is very clearly an example of bad AI, but maybe it was trying (and failing) to convey this?
Basically, 1/3 + 1/9 + 1/27 + 1/81 + ... + 1/3^n = 1/2.
Probably not. But maybe.
Or ⅓ + (⅓*½) = ½
I’m thinking it’s trying to say:
(2/6) + (1/6) = (3/6) = (4/6) - (1/6)
But either in “colloquial English for those who want to give other people aneurysms” or “colloquial English for those trying to sound smarter but aren’t”
Basically that the degree of difference between a half and a third is the same degree of difference between a half and two thirds- and that degree of difference is “one part”.
1/3 is 1/2 of 2/3
"42"
"The answer to life the universe and everything is 42!?"
"Yes, I checked it quite thoroughly."
...
"But what was the actual question?"
Alternatively, garbage in, garbage out.
considering where the garbage came from, maybe we should stop shitposting :)
That's like having google make a pizza with everything in my fridge then they complain that I also keep the dog's food in there.
Maybe the intent is to make people even dumber. It’s just misinformation all the way down.
Wouldn't even be surprised at this point. It seems the system is intentionally designed to discourage critical thinking and apparently knowing how to do math properly is too close for comfort now.
Someone I know had an old friend on their Facebook timeline say that schools should be reformed and don’t need classes like algebra. Then they proceeded to list fields kids could receive training for instead… and all of them required math of some sort.
Oh. I just noticed the extraneous word in the search, which might be throwing off the LLM trying to understand it.
I asked ChatGPT these questions and got sensible answers.
How much more is one half than one third?
[subtraction answer: 1/6 more]
That's one possibility, but what about the other way to interpret that question?
[ratio answer, but expressed as "1.5 times as much" rather than "1/2 more"]
