I don't tip as well. But I live in a civilised country where everyone gets at least a tolerable minimum wage. No one is paying me extra money just for doing my job. So I won't either. If they want more, they need to talk to their employer. It's not my responsibility.
Would I live in the United States of Idiots though, where a severe lack of ethical economic behaviour is observable, I indeed would tip the waiters, as that's sadly their financial lifeline.
tipping should be illegal because it leads to underpaid workers. but until tipping becomes illegal, you are a fucking asshole if you donât tip. youâre not sticking it to the man, youâre just shitting on a minimum wage worker because m-muh principles. grow up or move to a country where they donât tip
Here in Europe, waiters actually get a living wage, and still we're expected to tip??? Like yo fuck that! I never go to regular restaurants unless it's with a work colleague that refuses to go to the canteen. Oh my sweet canteen, so cheap yet plentiful, satisfying my stomach, mind and wallet, a true blessing.
Ya'll are all wrong. Tipping is to compensate the 2 dollars they make an hour. It's a shitty system, but that's the deal. If you don't want to tip then don't go eat at a restaurant that supports that system. It's not some luxury add-on for excellent service (though it can be). It is purely to make up for the extremely low wages. Does anyone remember the rest of the dialog in this scene?
I believe I'm a somewhat generous tipper.
Just today I rounded up a 23 up to 25. Euros that is. And I'm in Finland.
This is considered a generous tip, most don't tip at all.
When I drove a taxi basically if I had a shift on Christmas eve, then I'd get tips. Otherwise it was like at most 3-5% of riders who gave tips. And this was back in oughts, when people actually used cash. (I literally never had someone tip me on a card when driving a taxi.)
I'd rather eat a frozen pizza and drink beer in the basement for 1/6th the price.
I only tip when I think they deserve a tip. I tipped the last meal I ate out. Nice person who checked every few minutes if we needed anything else. They kept our drinks from getting empty. The service was worth the tip so they got it. That is what the tip is for. Good service, not any service.
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Id be amazed if a single commenter in this whole thread has worked in hospitality in any capacity, let alone waiting tables.
Most of these comments make me wonder if the poster has ever even once had a good night out at a nice restaurant.
Disclaimer: I live in a country without a serious tipping culture. But still...
If you donât like paying for service donât go out. This is the way that it is and these are likely the guests that then get on Yelp and complainâŚabout service. You can adjust minimum wage all you want but professional waitstaff arenât going to pander to the wealthy for minimum wage. Minimum wage service sucks as it should, you get what you pay for; minimum wage, minimum effort. If you donât like the system, change it, donât victimize your fellow workers. They accepted the job under this current system. Iâm in that system and am working to change it but until then if you donât tip due to your high moral standards YTA. And itâs not because USians are stoopid (we are), itâs just the ingrained culture. Under capitalism the guest will be paying this money regardless. Much like this fauxmockracy, your choice is an illusionâŚ
No one should really defend tipping. It literally has classist history that was updated from that to a racist history and criminal history.
I don't think you can't pay extra to someone because you liked them or what they did for you. We have whole holidays for gifts but man if people knew the history of tipping and why Europe picked up Americans anti tipping policy once upon a time I think we could move past it.
never mess with the people who handle your food.
you don't tip because your cheap
I don't tip because I never go anywhere
we are not the same
The argument being made is a rather poor one. In the example given, the waiter walked 10 feet to you, I would agree that you shouldn't have to tip.
I'm ambivalent on tipping culture, if we can institute a fair minimum wage then I'm fine with getting rid of it, if not then shut up and tip. All that said, the things we tip for has gotten way out of hand. Tipping used to be 15% for good service while some people were giving 20% because prices had remained low. Now with food prices increased businesses and wait staff are encouraging 20-25% and tipping options are being added everywhere.
My rule of thumb now is 20% for standard wait service (taking my order, bringing my meal, refilling beverages, and cleaning the table afterwards). If any of those elements isn't being fulfilled then I do not give a percentage, though if someone is going around filling drinks I'll probably leave a dollar or two. I also don't give a percentage tip for drinks that don't come with free refills, instead I will calculate the 20% tip without those beverages (typically alcohol) and then leave $1 per drink.
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Who's the cheap one in this equation?
.... the customer who is paying the owner of the restaurant for the food AND is obligated by social convention to pay extra to the waiter who is underpaid.
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... the restaurant owner who doesn't mind living in a world where we have normalized underpaying restaurant workers to the point where we pass down that responsibility to the customer who is already paying for the food.
Pay your workers a proper wage and get rid of the idea of tipping.
Tipping is bullshit. Restaurants should pay their workers properly. But Iâm not gonna punish the server for that. She has zero control over that.
If I canât afford to tip then I just donât go to the restaurant. People would prefer to make up excuses for why they donât wanna tip and how that doesnât make them an asshole while taking huge huffs of their own farts. If you donât like the tipping culture just go to a fast food restaurant or make your own food. Why is everybody such whiney bitches about everything?
