That is exactly what I did. I knew it reminded me of something, I just couldn't remember what. Thank you. Haha.

Or generally just if you point out they are part of a propaganda machine. Or that one even exists in the first place.

This ban happened literally seconds or ar most a minute or two after leaving the comment. (edit2 now I actually feel heatenings from saying that as one can probably tell from the timestamps and it might just be it felt like seconds to me)

So either Davel is himself all those accounts, or he's in some organised network of sorts.

They don't like the fact that I actually challenge the Russian propaganda. Davel actually pretends to be an American. While saying things like "reality has a well known Russian propaganda bias" and "there are no Russian trolls on Lemmy".

It's literally organised Russian disinformation. And if you look at him and AntiOutsideAktion and the other propagandist mods and admins, a lot of the were really active in US political discussion, "you shouldn't vote Harris, she supports genocide" sort of thing.

Most people will ignore this as too serious, but, yeah... it's pretty serious, and I won't stop calling out Russian bad actors online.

Edit typo and to add this gif

This particular watchman pretends to be an American, by the way, but yeah, that's exactly what he's doing. Thanks for the term!

Ah, yes, now I get it.

The cops don't like when you point out how intelligent they are (or aren't really)?

I am shocked

/s

.. somebody would be upset about that unless they had a hard-on for Russia

He clearly does.

Want to know the fun bit?

Davel refuses to answer whether he's pro-Russian. Which he clearly is. He literally claims to be an American. An American who somehow happens to favour Russia, say things like "reality has a well known Russian propaganda bias" and "Ukraine needs to be denazified by Russia" and "Uighur genocide isn't happening" (that last one is kinda 2019, but still.)

People like him are not an insignificant part of why Trump won.

I can see you have a point. I just don't what the point is you're trying to make?

You're making asinine assumptions that are counterproductive.

With your assumptions, you'll bar mentally ill people from housing, making their illness worse. Providing housing will further stabilise their situation, and only a tiny margin will fuck up their house to the point of it being actually negative in terms of societal cost. It takes A LOT to fuck up an apartment that bad. I know, as I know social workers who work with substance abusers, therapists, and janitors of people who live in buildings like that.

If someone is homeless because they are mentally ill

Yeah, see, again we go back to the "I can't talk to you" bit because you have assumptions like these, which read to me like "we should kill all the gays" or "blacks are subhuman" or "there's only two genders" rhetoric.

I genuinely don't know how to address the assumptions you hold, because they're so fucking archaic. I live in a country that has the policy you say doesn't work. We have less mental illness per capita than you.

And you've proposed NOTHING. The ONLY thing you've said is "don't give crazy people support."

Right?

Dude really got pissed. I remember getting some pirated games from Estonia in the 90's and Estonia was halfway further to the West than Russia.

In 1996, the N64 was released. Unfortunately it took until the spring of 1997 for my dad to get us one. I fucking loved him for that. The most amazing suprise in my life. It wasn't a christmas, a birthday, nothing. Dad just got us a N64 as a surprise. Fucking 3D gaming, flying around in Star Wars ships. It was AMAZING. RIP Dad

"Let's wait until we've cured all mental illness to give housing to everyone."

Yeah see the part in my first comment about how it's "hard to talk to some Americans"? This is exactly what I mean. This is like talking to someone from a theocracy advocating to kill all the gays. There's no commonality, there's no way for me to reason to you, there's nothing in the real world you'd respond to.

You just hold an opinion, and spam and spam and spam, like another pigheaded religious person.

Housing does not prevent treatment. Those aren't either or things. Prioritising housing doesn't mean "we'll get them an apartment before getting them any help for their mental illness" as I've explained in tedious length several times, it means that the policy understands that the foundation of mental health is physical safety that comes from having a place to sleep that's not the street.

This really isn't hard.

Imagine how annoying it would be for you to try to talk to a 18th century slaveowner about how it's not actually good for society to have slavery. Imagine just how annoying it would be to try to calmly talk the some slavers out of their "but they're sub-human, they love working, I'm just helping them, I'm actually the good guy here". Just imagine that for a bit.

And then realise that's the exact conversation we're having, and you're on the wrong side of it.

What does that even mean?

Again. We use that policy. You don't. I have experience. You don't. None of you're bullshit makes sense. Mine does.

Like infrastructure designed for providing hot water (>75C) directly to the kitchen?

Damn, that's amazing.

We only got saunas.

"Probably not"... what?

Putting someone in the psych ward against their will is difficult to impossible in a number of US states, due in part to laws passed in wake of the extreme abuses which occurred in the asylums of the 20th century.

You're talking about indefinite holds. I'm talking about a definite hold of 72 hours, which isn't uncommon in the states either, being a de facto medical necessity, seeing how psychotic people exist. It's called an psychiatric emergency hold.

We're not talking about people taking over someone's whole life and their rights a la Britney or some much worse case. We're talking about taking someone who's having an episode and treating that episode, then letting them back out again. Sometimes that takes longer than a few days, but usually those people understand enough to actually voluntarily stay after the three days they've had to stay. And if not, and they actually refused medical care, one could take them to jail if they were being disruptive. I believe putting people in jail is something you also do in Aaaamericaa?

(the video isn't related just I imagined saying that with the same accent and incredulity as in the video)

Money only buys happiness to up about like a 100k a year or so. I don't know it might be even more now, but definitely not over 200k.

It used to be roughly 70k USD and 50k EUR some 10 years ago when I read the study. That's the point at which you're financially secure enough to have your basics needs met and have enough over to climb towards self-actualization.

From well kept recycled parts which are labeled? Not much of a challenge.

From DUMPSTER parts? I'd say that's more impressive, as you need the knowledge and tools to know what works and what doesn't.

Yeah, sure, given a limitless timeframe, you can sit there until you get lucky enough for someone to drop a completely functioning but disassembled PC on your lap. But building one? You might need to clean parts, research what they are to get the proper drivers and OS even if you manage to find a set that actually fits together. Tracking down and fixing tiny shorts in circuits? That's not the same skills as putting together some Legos.

I've been in IT support in cities and schools and even when there's a massive pile of computers and hardware that are known to not be broken, it's sometimes a challenge.

You know how hard it is building a bookshelf? Take a piece of wood. Put book(s) on it. Now you've a bookshelf.

The US not having social security doesn't mean housing first is a bad policy.

And again, refusing to answer how you think not being homeless prevents people from mental health care.