Biden and Harris call the Israeli strike killing Hezbollah’s Nasrallah a 'measure of justice'
Biden and Harris call the Israeli strike killing Hezbollah’s Nasrallah a 'measure of justice'
Stop funding Israel's unjust wars.
Very odd to be a vassal state to a mooch ethnostate with 1/100th your population numbers...
Iron law of institutions. Institutions do not make decisions by the rational calculus of the institution. Institutions make decisions by the rational calculus of the decision-makers.
Israel has managed to quite thoroughly exploit that little detail in capturing our political system.
So gross that the US considers the use of multiple 2000 lbs Bunker-buster Bombs on a residential district of a counties Capital, flattening at least six residential buildings, burying and killing hundreds of civilians, as a 'measure of justice.' because the intended target is the terrorist and now using Human Shields, so it's their fault for all those civilian deaths, not Israel. Terrorism is only what Our and Israel's enemies do.
Whatever violence the US and our Allies do is good and just, whatever violence our and our Allies enemies do is bad and unjustified. The double standard is so flagrantly obvious. It's not about civilians, or peace, or justice. Israel can kill however many civilians they want, even US ones, and the US will still back them.
All that money could be going to our crippled Social Services instead and actually help people's lives.
It's not great optics that's for sure.
Voting in America has literally become the trolly problem.
The thing about the trolley problem is that the onvious answer is, when going purely by the numbers, to pull the lever. Too many people don’t pull it(don’t vote) and act like they did the morally correct thing while the several people get smushed.
And the thing about it is that it’s not a trolley problem at all but simple harm reduction. It’s the same pool of people getting hurt, not two separate tracks. One party won’t protect as many as they should, sure, but the other party will happily throw gasoline on the lot and light ‘em up to keep themselves warm while they wait for the train to come.
I mean, yes, but it's not a very hard trolly problem.
Once this fucked up election is over, we can start to put massive pressure on Kamala to enact change. Unless Trump wins... Then none of us will be able to do a thing, in all honesty.
So exactly what was said about Biden in 2020. Except once Biden was elected that pressure evaporated as liberals lost interest in progressive policies.
Half the population would do nothing, just take out their phones to record it, then pretend they could've never changed the result. "I can't believe the trolley did that! Yeah, I caught it on video!"
The best solution is tearing up the tracks.
Cool. You got a plan to do that inside of the next month-and-spare-change?
Since 23 September 2024, when Israel began its airstrikes on Lebanon, Israeli attacks have killed over 700 people,[25] injured more than 5,000,[26][27][28]and displaced hundreds of thousands of Lebanese civilians.[29]
When did Hezbollah start bombing Israel? Are there any displaced Israeli civilians?
Yes, a bunch of had to evacuate their homes. This is why the government has come down so hard on them. Disproportionate? Sure, but then the government has never been known for their reasonableness
Hezb has never stopped bombing Israel. But if you want to be more species Hezb started lobbing rockets into Israel on OCT 8 2023 and never stopped up until this day at a rate of 50 rockets / drones per day. This displaced around 150k israelis which represent most population on northern Israel. They also killed plenty of Israelis including 12 Druze children. Israel just said enough is enough after 10 months or so and decided to completely eradicate Hezb.
Don't tack on "and Harris" you wouldn't do that for any other President. "Biden calls it..."
I do believe she said it too.
Hassan Nasrallah was a terrorist with American blood on his hands. Across decades, his leadership of Hezbollah destabilized the Middle East and led to the killing of countless innocent people in Lebanon, Israel, Syria, and around the world. Today, Hezbollah’s victims have a measure of justice.
I have an unwavering commitment to the security of Israel. I will always support Israel’s right to defend itself against Iran and Iran-backed terrorist groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis.
President Biden and I do not want to see conflict in the Middle East escalate into a broader regional war. We have been working on a diplomatic solution along the Israel-Lebanon border so that people can safely return home on both sides of that border. Diplomacy remains the best path forward to protect civilians and achieve lasting stability in the region.
Nah unfortunately Harris is pro-Israel
She released a statement too. I could say her boss demanded a united show or her campaign staff was getting bothered by AIPAC with a month left in the campaign but that would be the same as people excusing Trump's 5d chess bullshit. The best I can give people is she's the American VP and she's going to care that a terrorist who killed Americans died.
Yeah, that makes since. Thanks for the info
Harris' statement for anyone curious, before they accuse her of being pro-Israel for saying this.
Hassan Nasrallah was a terrorist with American blood on his hands. Across decades, his leadership of Hezbollah destabilized the Middle East and led to the killing of countless innocent people in Lebanon, Israel, Syria, and around the world. Today, Hezbollah’s victims have a measure of justice.
I have an unwavering commitment to the security of Israel. I will always support Israel’s right to defend itself against Iran and Iran-backed terrorist groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis.
President Biden and I do not want to see conflict in the Middle East escalate into a broader regional war. We have been working on a diplomatic solution along the Israel-Lebanon border so that people can safely return home on both sides of that border. Diplomacy remains the best path forward to protect civilians and achieve lasting stability in the region.
She, and probably Biden are clearly referencing the American POV. Would I love to see her release another statement telling Netanyahu he has to stop this and give Palestinians freedom? Yeah. But I'm also not going to pretend the US doesn't want to get bad guys who've killed Americans.
Why aren't Israelis or Americans terrorists for killing Americans?
You're going to have to clarify the Americans part, unfortunately we kill each other all the time. As to the Israelis, they aren't targeting Americans. They've killed some while committing war crimes against the Palestinian people but they weren't like, "hey let's go kill an American today." That's probably the big difference between them and Hezbollah.
Maybe, but the pager thing was definitely terrorism.
100% correct
I would hesitate to call it terrorism, it was targeted at military persons with an intent at military disruption and any public casualties were collateral damage. It may have been a war crime though.
I was a war crime, I can't find any way to even debate it not being.
We can't leave mines out in a place all the civilians have left because they might one day get found by a civilian. Actively introducing bombs to the public market is absolutely a war crime.
No, it's not. You can't fucking win with the pacifists.
Especially if your entire argument is the equivalent of "nuh-uh!"
Hi, I'm definitely not a pacifist. I've been in war zones. And the laws of war exist for a reason. The choice is not war crimes or pacifism. Anyone telling you that is a shit person trying to make you a shit person. Don't listen to them.