Promised Land
Promised Land
Credit Andy Singer 2024
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It’s just greed. They throw in god’s name to relieve themselves of any personal responsibility.
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They also throw in God's name to get the religious rubes on board.
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Reminds me of this.
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It's kind of disingenuous.
It portrays Orthodox Jewishness as being responsible for genocidal Zionism when Orthodox Jewishness has pretty much always been vehemently critical of both Zionism and the creation of Israel.
The Jewish Zionists that perpetrated the Nakba looked no different than their fellow Europeans.
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that was a fun watch
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I mean it was a very good video. But fun, I don't know.
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Beat me to it, great recommendation
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I think at this stage we can just call manifest destiny "Americanism."
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The situation isn’t comparable. The majority of Jews in Israel are not European (or from anywhere else), they’re native Israeli and they trace their roots to Israel back for millennia.
The problem is not that Israelis want to live there. They have a right to live there. The problem is that they’re depriving Palestinians of their right to live there instead of seeking peaceful coexistence.
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We [as in entire human population] can all convert to Judaism but it won't ever change our ancestry. It's just a religion.
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Well, except Europeans never lived in America before Columbus, but Jews did live in Palestine/ Middle East
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Which hardly matters when people are taking the homes of people living there currently and killing them. What difference does it make if some of someone's ancestors centuries ago lived in that general part of the world?
You could justify European colonialism in Africa under similar logic, on the grounds that since humans evolved there before spreading out to the rest of the world, all Europeans have ancestors that lived on that continent at some point in the past and would merely be "reclaiming" it.
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Some did, but the whole point of Israel was a place for European countries to send their Jewish populations.
People who even if they were also ethnically Semitic, were descended from people who voluntarily left the area generations ago.
They could have immigrated there, instead European governments just declared it was theirs now.
Like, imagine if every American with Irish heritage were granted birthright citizenship there and the people who never left are shoved down into an ever shrinking slice of land. That's what's happening
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Jews did live in Palestine/ Middle East
Look up the history of the Beta Israelis / Ethiopian Jews and their treatment in the reconstituted state of Israel.
Compare that to the treatment of Afrikaner Israeli converts emigrating from South Africa and Russian/Ukrainian Jews fleeing violence in the current Russo-Ukraine War.
You'll notice one of the groups was targeted for mandatory sterilization and it wasn't the white folks.
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I up voted, this has no justification
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The Jewish settlers didn't live in Palestine, they lived in Europe and then moved to Palestine to steal the land. They're white.
Just because one ancestor a dozen generations ago lived somewhere doesn't mean you have a right to evict the actual people living on that land.
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"Israeli Jews are white" - Lmfao I can't believe that people still believe that old racist trope
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I don't agree on wording in the first paragraph, but do agree with the second paragraph.
What now? Evicting all 8 millions of Israeli to make Hamas happy?
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Palestinians didn't live in Palestine during that time, either. they migrated when everyone else did.
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That thinking is like believing you have the right to expel the people that lives in the house your grandmother lived on but left when she got married. But now the house is yours because "here lived my family".
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Jewish people living in Palestine is no fig leaf to justify European genocidal colonialism.
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Jewish people lived next to muslim people in arab countries for a very long time but then ww2 happened and the dumbass americans decided that doing what the nazis wanted to do originally is a good idea so they just kinda said that the european jews should move to this random desert where a lot of middle eastern jews live. You wouldnt deport all the south american, african, asian, etc christians to europe just because of their religion.
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Pretty sure Leif Eriksson landed in Vinland before Columbus landed in the Bahamas.
In other words, I'll be formulating a proposal to Mette-Mink to reclaim what only can belong to the (once) glorious Denmark!
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Now imagine a civil war happens in the US and the only places spared are the Indian reservations. And when the war ends, with the army, the air force, the national guard, ... all destroyed, the Indians start spreading their territory bombing the remnants of the US, with some help from Russia or China or...
Will you find the Indians have the right to carpet bomb NY or Dallas because they lived there 2 or 3 centuries ago?
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I've met a guy who no shit said this to me as if it was a justification for Israel's actions in Gaza.
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Anyone mentioning the phrase "3000" years ago is saying it. The Zionist movement is less than 150 years old. The rest of that history is made up.
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The notion of a "promised land" is a lie humans tell to themselves to monopolise the resources we all share with all living things.
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Palestinians aren't natives. they migrated at the same time as everyone else, 1 million people in 10 years.
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Yep, it was the only habitable parcel of land in the world with zero inhabitants until 1832. Jewish people and Palestinians both saw this weird chunk of land and realized they could just move there since no one else was there.
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that's exactly what happened... 1 million Arabs migrated in less than 10 years. whatever population was there before them was completely out numbered by the Arabs. the migration was 30x the increase seen at the same time the "baby boomers" were booming. that's 30x population count, not 30x the percentage.
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This is dumb propaganda on so many levels. Zionism isn’t a religious movement. Israelis are not primarily white. This equation is just dumb af
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I does however paint what IS the same.
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Three statements and all of them wrong that's impressive.
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Who are you trying to convince to do what, exactly?
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So, if they kill in the name of God, why aren't we calling them "terrorists" by now like we do with any other religious group, i.e. muslims ... or ... mhhhm... or.. wait... do we call anyone else terrorists, besides muslims?
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This comic would have been just as effective--and less insulting--had they not included the explanation at the top; the graphic gets the point across just fine.
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fun fact.
The US army gave people ammunition for free if it was used to kill bison for a period of time.
Bison almost went extinct.
Bison were a source of food for the natives.
I love american history!
Every 50 bison they killed they celebrated a bisontennial.
Bye son
Boooo!
this is awfull (of bones)
i tried, i'm not sorry
The official reason was the Bison herds were capable of destroying the fields of entire farms. We never stopped to ask if we should have been farming there in the first place.
I think they did stop to ask, and the answer they gave themselves was "yes".
were bison known for like, destroying fences or something? Or did we just not think of building fences lmao.