i finished it and i agree. i liked TLOU (show and lesser extent game), but Fallout had enough of the game’s…surreal?…humour that it bumped it from an “oh god this is a slog through human misery” (not in a bad way, per se!) to “miserable, but with bits of unexpected hilarity” for me.
Big take away for me is both stay true to the source material… minor changes but nothing over the top. The attention to detail in fallout is incredible, even down to the controls that open the doors in the vault.
So many shows just go so far away from the source they’re terrible.
I'm a bit split about this series. On one hand it has great world buliding, solid cinematography and style, interesting places and encounters, and so on. But on the other the main story is very bland, mostly about teasing you with the unknown, the tone flips wildly between goofy and serious, and I can't really sympathize with any of the characters. Kinda lika a typical Bethesda game I suppose, but it's not really working for me as a TV series.
the tone flips wildly between goofy and serious, and I can’t really sympathize with any of the characters
So its staying true to the source material, then.
also I am not shocked at all Bethesda wanted to destroy new vegas, I'm sure thats a metaphorical middle finger to obsidian for daring to release a more popular game than they were able to, lol.
Lol seriously. The tone was what I thought they absolutely nailed. There's tons of examples but the easiest is how genuinely badass that power armor intro is, and then also "fuck fuck fuck fuck". Fallout was always like that lol.
you say this as if todd doesnt love obsidian and new vegas. why even go there at all if he hates it so much? this idea is so pathetic among the new vegas fanboys just seems like bad actors pushing a narrative against bethesda any means neccesary
a woman searching for her kidnapped father who hopes to trade a (spoilers) for his release who is herself kidnapped by a semi-immortal and befriends a man who has only lived his whole life in a bootcamp against the background of a 200-year-old unethical social experiment precipitated by a global nuclear catastrophe... is not what I would call a bland plot.
Even if executed badly, written poorly, acted ineptly, shot awfully, edited confusingly and delivered sub par, I don't think the plot is bland.
Compared to, say, a lawyer starts at a new office and falls in love with his secretary, or a teenage daughter falls in love with a guy from the wrong side of the tracks.
I'd say most of that is the setting, not the plot. The plot was mostly about slowly uncovering that setting, bringing a MacGuffin from A to B, and having random stuff happen along the way. Many of the character interactions felt surface level (heh) as well to me, probably because or why (as I said) I couldn't really get into the characters.
Idk, I don't blame you if you see it differently, but the overall narrative and character building left a bit to be desired for me.
That's not plot, those are premises. Premises are fine at the beginning of a series but they need to do something interesting with those premises.
For example, lawyers starts a new office and falls in love with secretary is just a premise, a starting point. But it turns out that said lawyer has a strong imposter syndrome that makes him doubts everything he does despite his externally cocky attitude, while the secretary is actually a down on her luck law student who got emotionally abused by her previous boyfriend who is now the new hire on a high tier firm that is the main competitor of the protagonist's firm. Main guy shows interest on the secretary but they have a fallout due to her wariness and his insecurity. Then the opposing firm starts a hostile takeover by stealing clients and lawyers. Main guy is on the brink of bankruptcy which throws him into a spiral. So he concocts a crazy plan that involves a dangerous representation of the local mafia, to which one of their big players are the estranged family of the secretary who she tried to abandon to run away from the insecurity and violent life. So now they find out this facts about each other when the mafia accidentally kills one of the lawyers of the opposing firm under weird circumstances and both the lawyer and the secretary end up hashing their deep emotional baggage on a road trip to another district and find their respective strengths, her to confront her criminal father and him to stand up for his employees, then…
You get the idea, that is plot. Things that happen to the characters or that the characters do, that fundamentally changes them and the context. A cool premise can only get you so far. In Fallout things barely happen and the characters end up more or less at the same place they started in, emotionally speaking.
I had the same thoughts as watching it. Mind you I'm not into the games at all, just have a passing familiarity with random Internet articles. It just didn't seem to move and didn't focus on one arc long enough to give a crap about anyone until the end where it ties together. I almost stopped watching it because when it would get good, they would invariably cut to another character arc and lose me.
This exactly. Barely anything of consequence happens in any one episode, apart from the first and the last. Everything in between could have been condensed into maybe 2-3 episodes, leaving more time for actual plot after the big battle at the observatory.
I've never understood tone flipping wildly as a criticism. I prefer the tone to have a wide swing in my media. Matt Smith was an amazing doctor because 1 second he could be a total goof, and a deadly "old" man the next.
I can send you an invite to my Plex server if you want - I have the first season on there. Just shoot me a throwaway email address via PM. It works just like Netflix.
You're doing the Lord's work. I wish I could get jelly fin working the same way. I haven't been able to figure out how to access it outside my home network
Probably could have made a better face in the games character creator. That would have been kinda cool actually, a better in-universe visual shift than whatever the fuck that demon was
Amazing news! I was really worried they wouldn't get the tone of the fallout universe right in the show but they totally nailed it. From the props and locations to the soundtrack they really knocked it out of the park. I feel like the ending was a little meh, but I guess its just how they set it up for season 2.