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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 18th May 2025
  • I adjusted her ESAS downward by 5 points for questioning me, but 10 points upward for doing it out of love.

    Oh, it's a mockery all right. This is so fucking funny. It's nothing less than the full application of SCP's existing temporal narrative analysis to Big Yud's philosophy. This is what they actually believe. For folks who don't regularly read SCP, any article about reality-bending is usually a portrait of a narcissist, and the body horror is meant to give analogies for understanding the psychological torture they inflict on their surroundings; the article meanders and takes its time because there's just so much worth mocking.

    This reminded me that SCP-2718 exists. 2718 is a Basilisk-class memetic cognitohazard; it will cause distress in folks who have been sensitized to Big Yud's belief system, and you should not click if you can't handle that. But it shows how these ideas weren't confined to LW.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 11th May 2025
  • Well, actually, Nurdrage was the synthesizer of pyrimethamine on Youtube (here is their playlist), and if one actually watches their videos then they will quickly learn that there are legal reasons why the synthesis pathway is so convoluted. We've discussed this before here and here. I agree that there's no substitute for spectrographic analysis.

    this ... can be reasonably expected to kill people

    Better not look up how much of the USA bans reproductive care for women and how many excess deaths that causes; hundreds of people/year already die from a lack of care and medicine.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 11th May 2025
  • Thiel isn't known to be among any laity. He was raised as some flavor of evangelical fundie and follows a specific philosopher, René Girard. He generally hasn't gotten a pass on being queer from the wider Christian community, and if you want to hear some psychoanalysis of his closet then you might enjoy the relevant Behind the Bastards: How Peter Thiel Became the Gravedigger of Democracy.

  • A report by IBM explains part of the hype around GenAI:
  • I've been giving professional advice about system administration directly to CEOs and CTOs of startups for over half a decade. They've all asked about AI one way or another. While some of my previous employers have had good reasons to use machine learning, none of the businesses I've worked with in the past half-decade have had any use for generative AI products, including startups whose entire existence was predicated on generative AI.

    Don't sign up for a dick-measuring contest without measuring yourself first.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 11th May 2025
  • I can't stop chuckling at this burn from the orange site:

    I mean, they haven't glommed onto the daily experience of giving a kid a snickers bar and asking them a question is cheaper than building a nuclear reactor to power GPT4o levels of LLM...

    This is my new favorite way to imagine what is happening when a language model completes a prompt. I'm gonna invent AGI next Halloween by forcing children to binge-watch Jeopardy! while trading candy bars.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 11th May 2025
  • The books look alright. I only read the samples. The testimonials from experts are positive. Maybe compare and contrast with Lox from Crafting Interpreters, whose author is not an ally but not known evil either. In terms of language design, there's a lot of truth to the idea that Monkey is a boring ripoff of Tiger, which itself is also boring in order to be easier to teach. I'd say that Ball's biggest mistake is using Go as the implementation language and not explaining concepts in a language-neutral fashion, which makes sense when working on a big long-lived project but not for a single-person exploration.

    Actually, it makes a lot of sense that somebody writing a lot of Go would think that an LLM is impressive. Also, I have to sneer at this:

    Each prompt I write is a line I cast into a model’s latent space. By changing this word here and this phrase there, I see myself as changing the line’s trajectory and its place amidst the numbers. Words need to be chosen with care, since they all have a specific meaning and end up in a specific place in latent space once they’ve been turned into numbers and multiplied with each other, and what I want, what I aim for when I cast, is for the line to end up in just the right spot, so that when I pull on it out of the model comes text that helps me program machines.

    Dude literally just discovered word choice and composition. Welcome to writing! I learned about this in public education when I was maybe 14.

  • "Regulations are NOT the solution to low-quality food. Bitcoin is." - this guy.
  • I'm guessing that you're too young to remember. Lucky 10000! In the 1990s, McDonald's was under attack for a variety of anti-environmentalist practices, and by 2001 there was a class-action lawsuit against them for using beef tallow in fries from a coalition of vegetarians, vegans, and primarily Hindus who were deeply offended that they had been tricked into consuming what they consider to be a sacred animal. In a nutshell, it's a very racist and revanchist move, not just an anti-environmentalist move.

    Unlike normal, I can't link to good peer-reviewed articles on the topic. McDonald's is one of the few groups who can successfully control their Internet presence, and they've washed away these controversies as best they can. I almost feel like linking to this summary of the case on Wikipedia is unhelpful, since it's got so many apologetic caveats. They do this all over Wikipedia; McLibel or Liebeck are also heavily edited in favor of McDonald's. You'll have to explicitly add "hindu" or "indian" to search queries; for example, instead of "mcdonalds beef tallow", try "mcdonalds beef tallow hindu indians".

  • "Regulations are NOT the solution to low-quality food. Bitcoin is." - this guy.
  • I bet you're thinking of CPAs (not to be confused with CPAs or CPAs), who are the sort of folks that might manage money for the working class. CFAs are something different:

    The top employers of CFA charter-holders globally include UBS, JPMorgan Chase, Royal Bank of Canada, Bank of America, and Morgan Stanley.

    You shouldn't let any CFA directly manage your assets. Go to your local credit union and get free advice from their CPAs; they often have a standard path to wealth-building for their members, even those without much in the savings account.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 4th May 2025
  • On my first two reads, I thought that it was heavy-handed satire with mediocre word choice. But no, I suppose that he's being sincere, in which case I'm glad to notify DHH that Apple products are optional and that a technologist can go their entire lives without purchasing a single Apple product.

    Google's incredible work to further the web isn't an act of charity, it's of economic self-interest, and that's why it works.

    Same dumb motherfucker who has been pinching pennies due to poor architecture. Does he think public clouds are acts of charity? Or, going the other direction, this is the same entitled prick who has been naysaying universal basic income because he thinks work gives us purpose like a fucking Calvinist. Does he think UBI is an act of charity? No, DHH, you myopic chud, public clouds and UBI are both concepts borne of economic self-interest.

  • Sneerquence classics: Eliezer on GOFAI (half serious half sneering effort post)
  • Sometimes, yeah! There was a classic theory of metacompilers in the 1960s with examples like META II. In the 1980s, partial evaluation was put onto solid ground following Futamura's programme, and in the 1990s the most successful team wrote The Book on the topic. My current weekend project is a fork of META II and it evolves by gradual changes to the compiler punctuated by two self-rebuild cycles.

  • Sneerquence classics: Eliezer on GOFAI (half serious half sneering effort post)
  • I guess that I'm the resident compiler engineer today. Let's go.

    So why not write an optimizing compiler in its own language, and then run it on itself?

    The process will reach a fixed point after three iterations. In fancier language, Glück 2009 shows that the fourth, fifth, and sixth Futamura projections are equivalent to the third Futamura projection for a fixed choice of (compiler-)compiler and optimizer. This has practical import for cross-compiling; when I used to use Gentoo, I would watch GCC build itself exactly three times, and we still use triples in our targets today.

    [S]uppose you built an optimizing compiler that searched over a sufficiently wide range of possible optimizations, that it did not ordinarily have time to do a full search of its own space — so that, when the optimizing compiler ran out of time, it would just implement whatever speedups it had already discovered.

    Oh, it's his lucky day! Yud, you've just been Schmidhuber'd! Starting in 2003, Schmidhuber's lab has published research on Gödel machines, self-improving machines which prove that their self-modifications will always be better than previous iterations. They are named not just after Gödel, but after his First Incompleteness Theorem; Schmidhuber et al proved easily that there will always be at least one speedup theorem which a Gödel machine can never reach (for a given choice of axioms, etc.)

    EURISKO used "heuristics" to, for example, design potential space fleets. It also had heuristics for suggesting new heuristics, and metaheuristics could apply to any heuristic, including metaheuristics. … EURISKO could modify even the metaheuristics that modified heuristics. … Still, EURISKO ran out of steam. Its self-improvements did not spark a sufficient number of new self-improvements.

    Once again the literature on metaheuristics exists, and it culminates in the discovery of genetic algorithms. As such, we can immediately apply the concept of gene-oriented evolution ("beanbag" or "gene pool" reasoning) and note that, if goals don't change and new genes don't enter the pool, then eventually the population stagnates as the possible range of mutated genes is tested and exhausted. It doesn't matter that some genes are "meta" genes that act on other genes, nor that such actions are indirect. Genes are genes.

    I'm gonna close with a sneer from Jay Bellou, who I hope is not a milkshake duck, in the comments:

    All "insights" eventually bottom out in the same way that Eurisko bottomed out; the notion of ever-increasing gain by applying some rule or metarule is a fantasy. You make the same sort of mistake about "insight" as do people like Roger Penrose, who believes that humans can "see" things that no computer could, except that you think that a computer can too, whereas in reality neither humans nor computers have access to any such magical "insight" sauce.

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 27th April 2025
  • I'm sorry you had to learn this way. Most of us find out when SciShow says something that triggers the Gell-Mann effect. Green's background is in biochemistry and environmental studies, and he is trained as a science communicator; outside of the narrow arenas of biology and pop science, he isn't a reliable source. Crash Course is better than the curricula of e.g. Texas, Louisiana, or Florida (and that was the point!) but not better than university-level courses.

  • OpenAI offers to buy the Chrome web browser from Google. Uh huh.
  • Okay. It feels like your comment is totally disconnected from evidence and reality. Also, it feels like you didn't actually want to make a germane comment. Finally, it feels like you don't have anything of substance to add, regardless of relevance.

  • OpenAI offers to buy the Chrome web browser from Google. Uh huh.
  • A lot of court documents are sealed or redacted, so I can't quite get at all the details. Nonetheless here's what I've got so far:

    • Chrome is just the browser, including Chromium, but not ChromiumOS (a Gentoo fork, basically) or ChromeOS (the branded OS on Chromebooks)
    • Chrome is unaffordable because it was quite expensive to build and continues to be a maintenance burden
    • The government is vaguely aware that forcing a sale of Chrome could be adverse for the market but the court hasn't said anything on the topic yet
    • Via filing from Apple, the court is aware that Firefox materially depends on Google, although they haven't done much beyond allow Apple to file as amicus

    The court hasn't cracked open AMD v Intel yet, where it was found that a cash remedy would be better than punishing the ongoing business concerns of a duopoly, but it would be one possible solution: instead of selling Chrome, Google would have to pay its competitors a lump sum and change their business practices somewhat.

    I am genuinely not sure what happens to "the browser market", as it were. The Brave and Safari teams are relatively small because they make tweaks on top of an existing browser core; the extreme propagation of Electron suggests that once a browser is written, it does not need to be written again. The court may find browsers to be a sort of capital which is worth a lot of money on its own but not expensive to maintain. This would destroy Mozilla along with Google!

  • Linux users failing to respect trans Linux developers

    Sorry, no sneer today. I'm tired of this to the point where I'm dreaming up new software licenses.

    A trans person no longer felt safe in our community and is no longer developing. In response, at least four different forums full of a range of Linux users and developers (Lemmy #1, Lemmy #2, HN, Phoronix (screenshot)) posted their PII and anti-trans hate.

    I don't have any solutions. I'm just so fucking disappointed in my peers and I feel a deep inadequacy at my inability to get these fuckwads to be less callous.

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    Leopard-trainer J. Tunney now scared of leopards
    justine.lol AI Training Shouldn't Erase Authorship

    AI training scrubs authorship knowledge from open source code

    AI Training Shouldn't Erase Authorship

    After a decade of cryptofascism and failed political activism, our dear friend jart is realizing that they don't really have much of a positive legacy. If only there was something they could have done about that.

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    Why has Emperor Zuck given us this bounty?

    In this big thread, over and over, people praise the Zuck-man for releasing Llama 3's weights. How magnanimous! How courteous! How devious!

    Of course, Meta is doing this so that they don't have to worry about another 4chan leak of weights via Bittorrent.

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    HN has no opinions on memetics

    > Sometimes what is not said is as sneerworthy as what is said.

    It is quite telling to me that HN's regulars and throwaway accounts have absolutely nothing to say about the analysis of cultural patterns.

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    It's not a death threat, you're just unfamiliar with 90s hip-hop

    Possibly the worst defense yet of Garry Tan's tweeting of death threats towards San Francisco's elected legislature. In yet more evidence for my "HN is a Nazi bar" thesis, this take is from an otherwise-respected cryptographer and security researcher. Choice quote:

    > sorry, but 2Pac is now dad music, I don't make the rules

    Best sneer so far is this comment, which links to this Key & Peele sketch about violent rap lyrics in the context of gang violence.

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    Overly libertarian crypto-bro vs AML regulations: EU edition

    Choice quote:

    > Actually I feel violated.

    It's a KYC interview, not a police interrogation. I've always enjoyed KYC interviews; I get to talk about my business plans, or what I'm going to do with my loan, or how I ended up buying/selling stocks. It's hard to empathize with somebody who feels "violated" by small talk.

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    Libertarian becomes lawyer, appreciates police
    www.lesswrong.com Defunding My Mistake — LessWrong

    Confessions of an ex-ACAB • • Until about five years ago, I unironically parroted the slogan All Cops Are Bastards (ACAB) and earnestly advocated to…

    Defunding My Mistake — LessWrong

    Choice quote:

    > Putting “ACAB” on my Tinder profile was an effective signaling move that dramatically improved my chances of matching with the tattooed and pierced cuties I was chasing.

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    Those darn "anti-fascists" are punching too many Nazis

    As usual, I struggle to form a proper sneer in the face of such sheer wrongheadedness. The article is about a furry who was dating a Nazifur and was battered for it; the comments are full of complaints about the overreach of leftism. Choice quote:

    > Anti-fascists see fascism everywhere (your local police department) the same way the John Birch Society saw communism everywhere (Dwight Eisenhower.). Or maybe they are just jealous that the fascists have cool uniforms and boots. Or maybe they think their life isn’t meaningful enough and it has to be like a comic book or a WWII movie.

    Well, I do wear a Captain America shirt often…

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    upside-down thinking: the law is not for entrepreneurs

    A well-respected pirate, neighbor, and Lisper is also a chud. Welcome to HN, the Nazi Bar where everybody's also an expert in technology.

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    You can't take my land from me without giving me investment advice

    Eminent domain? Never heard of it! Sounds like a fantasy from the "economical illiterate."

    Edit: This entire thread is a trash fire, by the way. I'm only highlighting the silliest bit from one of the more aggressive landlords.

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    JAQing off to harass a trans community member

    Saw this last night but decided to give them a few hours to backtrack. Surprisingly, they've decided to leave their comments intact!

    This sort of attitude, not directly harassing trans folks but just asking questions about their moral fiber indirectly, seems to be coming from some playbook; it looks like a structured disinformation source, and I wonder what motivates them.

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    The sad thing is that the cop didn't get away with it

    "The sad thing is that if the officer had not made a few key missteps … he might have covered his bases well enough to avoid consequences." Yeah, so sad.

    For bonus sneer, check out their profile.

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