1y ago

BBC: Extending our Mastodon social media trial

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Extending our Mastodon social media trial

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2y ago

BBC extending Mastodon social media trial

www.bbc.co.uk /rd/blog/2024-02-extending-our-mastodon-social-media-trial

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2y ago

BBC extends their Mastodon social media trial

www.bbc.co.uk /rd/blog/2024-02-extending-our-mastodon-social-media-trial

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- Such is the internet :)
  
  big bloxxa
- News. You need to add the word news to your search. I'm just waiting for someone to name a large organization DILF. That's going to be hilarious.
  
  There was the Moro Islamic Liberation Front in Philippines.
  
  Wait...
  I want a news alert set up whenever porn stars get boned by rather large phalluses belonging to those with darker complexions.
  If I want that, what search terms should I use?
- look up the domain
  
  You are very helpful and correct - thank you for that. I suspect it was something of a double entendre joke, however.
  
  social.bbc
  LMAO
I quite like the way that reads. It sounds like some people within the BBC are quite forward thinking.
For some equivalent posts we’ve seen significantly larger engagement numbers for Mastodon compared to X/Twitter, particularly given the relative sizes of different platforms.
we have had to do very little moderation of replies associated with our content.
So you get significantly larger engagement numbers and spend less time moderating. What's left to ponder, amigo?
- Scale. It’s a better quality audience but executives like BIG NUMBERS to make the juice worth the squeeze.
  I think the investment supporting is worth it in the long run! Traditional social is basically a shitty rev share to reach a larger audience.
- I do fear that as federation grows, then so too will potentially the same threats that happen on centralised social media. The fediverse is going to have a lot of vulnerable servers who won't moderate or detect trolls & bots and over time the issue could become extremely onerous.
  
  No doubt. However that was considered during it's inception and there are measures to mitigate that.
  However, of you look at the stats, federation is not growing. Quite the opposite really.
Has it been 6 months already?
Well written and glad to see professional outlets sharing their experience with Activity Pub.
It's like running your own email server in the early 2000s. For large businesses it totally makes sense.
Hobbiests can do it to if they are interested.
Most people will land at a "shared" service and let someone else handle the admin tasks. I'm afraid that eventually there might only be "outlook.com, gmail.com, and yahoo.com" so to speak, because it's just the easy way to go for most people and economies of scale make it more feasible for the operators who find ways to get paid.
- People misunderstand what federation needs to do. Email is a great model.
  It's fine to have big providers. What federation does is limit the fuckery possible. Imagine what would happen if GMail started charging $8 a month.
  Having the option for competition doesn't mean you have to use it. It's enough that it's possible.
- But people self host email today, and there are many more email orgs around including private work email and specialised services such as Proton mail focusing on privacy and security. It's a good analogy.
  An open standard like Mastodon will allow big players but also niche and small players, who can focus on specific communities or offering specific spins.
  
  Totally agree. The smtp protocol server to server interoperability made email all work smoothly across many federated hosts and I think ActivityPub is more or less designed with a similar strategy, except for defederations. I guess the equivalent would be blocking spam at your smtp gateway, lol.
  
  Do people actually self host mail? I remember watching some conference that said it is basically a full time job nowadays to get your mails actually delivered if you're not one of the big providers. Much easier to pay one of them and just use a custom domain instead, and I can easily see this being a thing for the fediverse one day too (assuming it ever gets big enough)
All large news orgs and NGOs need to do the same - federate their server which becomes the source of truth, and then mirror the content over other social media which is not federated. This may or may not include Twitter. I imagine that over time having news and reporting across social media will diminish any advantage Twitter possesses and then news orgs / NGOs might decide if they want their content on a platform like Twitter that cannot be bothered with things like stamping out bots, trolls, inauthentic actors, or supporting a free and fair press.
- @BBC_News_Labs@social.bbc, this.
- And governments and politicians should set up their own servers too.
Come on CBC! Follow their lead. And hell, while we're at it RCMP please.
@BBCRD@social.bbc for anyone on a microblog capable platform (not lemmy)
Good job Fediverse and Mastodon users. I'm glad as a group, we are generally behaving well.
I realise that the overlap between Mastodon users and BBC Radio 3 listeners is likely me and me alone but I wish they'd add an account for it.
I suppose the reasoning behind it would be that 4 & 5 are the talk stations.
While in the meantime, in the land of Mozilla, investment in Mastodon are reduced...
This is the best summary I could come up with:
We were aiming to learn about how much work and cost this involved, how many people we’d reach, what levels of engagement we would get and to explore the risks and benefits of the federated model.
The trial so far has been really effective in helping us learn about how the Fediverse is evolving, what technical support a Mastodon server needs, what the costs are, and how a large media organisation like the BBC can engage with the many different overlapping communities that exist in this rapidly changing space.
We are also planning to start some technical work into investigating ways to publish BBC content more widely using ActivityPub, the underlying protocol of Mastodon and the Fediverse.
Reassuringly, most of the comments and feedback have been positive, welcoming both our interest and the way we have set things up.We’ve had really encouraging levels of engagement(i.e. replies, re-posts and likes) on Mastodon.
Because this an experiment and a trial, it's not always the main priority for all the teams involved, so we may not be able to engage and reply as much as the Mastodon community and culture expect, and we recognise this could be an issue going forward.
Because of the potential sensitivity around news stories, we need to be particularly careful with our editorial processes and within the scope of this trial we are not in a position to guarantee time and effort from other teams outside of R&D.
The original article contains 692 words, the summary contains 240 words. Saved 65%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
Outsourcing administration instead of doing it in house would be much cheaper for news orgs in the long run I'd think. Volunteer admins is one thing. Staff admins is another.
- They already have the staff, this would just be a project current staff manages.
I like the testing and hopefully they will share more detailed research findings in the next 6months. Especially on content moderation knowing they have decades of experience on this.

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