Just under half of likely Iowa GOP caucusgoers who support former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley indicated that they would make a crossover to the Democratic party, saying that they would rather vote …
Just under half of likely Iowa GOP caucusgoers who support former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley indicated that they would make a crossover to the Democratic party, saying that they would rather vote for President Biden over former President Trump.
A new NBC News/Des Moines Register/Mediacom poll released just one day before the Iowa caucuses found that 43 percent of Haley backers in the state said they would vote for Biden if Trump is the GOP nominee, while 23 percent say they would vote for the former president. Eight percent said they would vote for independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Overall, 71 percent of likely GOP caucusgoers said they would vote for Trump in 2024, while only 11 percent said they would vote for Biden.
“Haley is consolidating the anti-Trump vote,” J. Ann Selzer, a pollster who has conducted the Iowa survey over the last three decades, told NBC. “She does well with the people who define themselves as anti-Trump.”
Well that’s good news. Now we just gotta see how well she does tomorrow. Biden might actually win in 2024. I’ve been feeling so negative about it because most Americans don’t understand what caused inflation and “well, the economy was better under Trump” means literally nothing when a global pandemic and regional wars fucked the world up
Also, the weird truth is that the economy did better under both Obama and Biden than it did under trump, but the wingers don't let facts get in the way of their talking points. I've been worried about Haley getting the nomination because I think she could beat Biden. I don't think trump would. For me trump winning is scarier, but more unlikely.
I’d be afraid of any GOP win. Trump rewrote the rules and they will never return to center. There is a chance who ever takes the torch from Trump is actually competent and that’s terrifying.
Im scared of a Trump win but terrified of a Trump loss. What will happen if he loses a second general election? I would rather see Haley get the nomination because the Trumpers would write in Trump and Biden would win easily. I’m voting for Haley in my state’s primary lmao
most Americans don’t understand what caused inflation and “well, the economy was better under Trump” means literally nothing when a global pandemic and regional wars fucked the world up
That's the thing about the collision between reality and politics though: the former doesn't matter.
When I was in the military, they used to always say "Perception is reality." I'm no philosophy major, but I always thought that was exceedingly stupid, especially for the military.
But the more I learn about the world, the more I'm just like...yeah, okay, if you want to be pragmatic, then perception is reality.
So, the fact that most Americans don't understand what caused inflation and attribute it to the president like idiots means everything politically. It's Americans who are voting. And if they can proudly identify Canada on a map and proclaim it's the U.S., then that's what we're stuck with.
Yeah, well said. I’ve given up trying to convince my MAGA mom that had Trump gotten a second term, inflation would still be high. I walked her through everything that happened and asked her what was it that Biden did that made inflation bad. It’s just crickets. They hear “Biden bad, inflation his fault” and that’s enough for them.
Until they can differentiate between a claim and a fact, we’re stuck with their alternative reality
I wouldn't got that far but in general yes. Our ideas of the real world very much shape the world we live in. Which is only the case because all this tech and wealth and organization has shielded us from the real world.
This is why Trump will not be removed from the ballot, Biden loses if it's anyone else. Enforcing the law as written is as inconvenient for Dems as it is for Republicans.
If Trump is removed from the ballot, Biden will get some "sudden" diagnosis that forces him to back out of the race for health reasons, then whats-her-name will get nominated by default.
This is the same BS that was spewed when Biden first won, claiming it was a backdoor for Harris to be POTUS and he would step down as soon as he was inaugurated. . .and then 2 months. . .and then 2 years. How many times is this nonsense going to be pushed?
She’s not MAGA, but her continued gaffe about slavery and the southern states just tell me she’s a hard right republican, bigotry and regressive ideals included. So I put her in the Mike Pence box; MAGA enabler and flirting with them, but won’t go off the cliff even if they hang her. So participation points I guess?
Her voting history while she was serving in South Carolina says otherwise.
People should really know the bills she endorsed on things like abortion, immigration, and LGBTQ+ rights.
One of the shorter excerpts from her wiki:
"Haley has stated that, as a daughter of immigrants, she believes the immigration laws should be enforced.[53] She voted in favor of a law that requires employers to be able to prove that newly hired employees are legal residents of the United States, and also requires all immigrants to carry documentation at all times proving that they are legally in the United States."
yeah, definitely not the right time for that. 100%, two parties is insufficient and in an ideal world we would have 5-6 parties who actually discuss and compete over policy. but it would have to be accomplished strategically, not when totalitarianism is holding a full house.
Libs polarizing between "this should be super easy" and "omg everything is about to explode if we don't pick the other old-ass-white-man" is always going to be wild to me.
A new NBC News/Des Moines Register/Mediacom poll released just one day before the Iowa caucuses found that 43 percent of Haley backers in the state said they would vote for Biden if Trump is the GOP nominee, while 23 percent say they would vote for the former president.
Eight percent said they would vote for independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
“Haley is consolidating the anti-Trump vote,” J. Ann Selzer, a pollster who has conducted the Iowa survey over the last three decades, told NBC.
The poll also explored likely Iowa GOP caucusgoers’ view of Trump’s legal challenges.
The NBC News/Des Moines Register/Mediacom poll was conducted Jan. 7-12 with 705 likely Republican Iowa caucusgoers.
The poll has an overall margin of error of plus or minus 3.7 percentage points.
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