U.S. President Joe Biden said on Tuesday that Hamas had repeatedly raped women and mutilated their bodies during its Oct.7 assault on southern Israel, citing survivors and witnesses of the attacks.
This article is about Biden saying that women were raped on October 7th.
The article you linked is about hostages being raped while they were being held in Gaza.
EDIT: the motivation of the IDF to publish that is to maximize the chances of the hostages coming back alive - if Hamas feel the hostages might do more damage after being released by confirming claims such as rape or sexual assault, the worry is that they will simply execute them.
I don't know how reputable that site is, but it sounds reputable
The pushback is apparently in response to comments from US State Department spokesman Matthew Miller Monday that Hamas terrorists likely held back on freeing female hostages because it did not want them to speak publicly about being subjected to rape and other sexual violence.
The pushback is not on the claim of rape and mutilation. The pushback is on the rapes being a reason to hold back on hostage release.
And I agree. The (likely) fact of the rapes and mutilation is horrific. But to even imply that is a reason that hostages are not being exchanged hurts both sides and prolongs the war. Because it implies an avenue of propaganda that would make hamas less likely to engage and it infuriates idf soldiers which leads to even more atrocities.
Oh man, that’s awful. I hope Israel responded by working with their regional partners and the UN to free the hostages and isolate and discredit Hamas. With a measured response and a little diplomacy, they could probably get the hostages returned safely and show the whole world that Hamas is illegitimate and needs to be defunded and dismantled. Even Gazans are sick of their shit. Hamas got like 40% in an election 18 years ago and haven’t held an election or done shit for ordinary people since.
Sure but how do you think Gazan feel about IDF? Every person at least one family member, some lost their entire family. not to mention their homes, their shops and their lively hood.
Even Palestinian from west bank where not spared with illegal settlers harassing them, kicking them out of their land and stealing their crops.
Please don't get me wrong Hamas is a terrorist organization but so is Natanyahu and his government.
No don’t you know they deserve it cause they voted in Hamas.
I wonder why the same doesn’t apply for Americans and the war crimes their country has committed.
But if they did that, how would Biden subsidize the military industrial complex by giving billions and billions of dollars to Israel so they can buy American weapons and ammunition to continue the same oppressive slaughter of Palestine?
The guns and ammunition need to be spent on someone, might as well be spent on the brown people half the world away, like every American "war" after the Civil one.
And just to note, this abject dependence on the military industrial complex to enrich the 1% has not caused a consistent and constant slide to the right of the entire US Federal government. All 2 sides.
And we couldn't have done this for Ukraine at the same level because if we did, we wouldn't be within sucking distance of Putin's tiny shriveled peen.
Mexican American War, killing brown people close to home for practice before doing it abroad. Our country fucking loves killing people as much as Kanye loooooovesss hitler
Do you have evidence of that? Because some polling has been done over the last few months, and it's been showing consistently high support for Hamas and the October 7th attacks in general. The reason why the Palestinian Authority hasn't held elections in the West Bank in ages is because Hamas would probably win them.
I shouldn't have to say this, but that of course does not mean that civilians deserve to be bombed.
TL/DR: I used to work in politics (in the U.S.) so I’m gonna be long-winded here but in short: I’m not sure how accurate any poll in Gaza can be. But here’s my thoughts:
Firstly, how accurate can polls be in any autocratic place? If your town was ruled by violent goons, would you tell some caller from an unknown number (or a stranger face-to-face) that you disapprove? Putin probably has great poll numbers.
Even if they are accurate, there’s always a “rally around the flag” effect at the start of a war. So, post Oct 7 polls might be weird. (Like, George W Bush had a 90% approval rating for a brief period.) It could be like asking “Do you support the troops?”
A third issue with Gaza polling is when they ask it like “Do you support Hamas or Fatah?” You can hate Hamas and not want corrupt, weak, ineffectual leaders shipped in from the West Bank.
So, I think it’s reasonable to expect the “true” margin of error to be way higher than a typical poll in a stable, peaceful, democratic country. If it’s +/- 20%, you can find a poll that suits your agenda.
Agreed. It is classic deflection propaganda. When you do horrific things exponentially worse, scream loudly about the opposing side and their actions. To be clear, raping women is absolutely wrong and those people should be arrested. 16000+ dead in a genocide should be the thing being spoken about. Instead this provides cover for never speaking about it.
It’s been independently verified, so yes. It’s not just repeating old news, it’s backing up what was initially hearsay. The US don’t announce it until now as it’s been confirmed.
Are you implying that restating newly confirmed facts is biased in favor Israel??
Also, Biden has personally played a big role in the Hamas / Israel talks and getting cease fires and such agreed upon. It’s not like he’s randomly attacking Israeli enemies. We had Americans there so it is further relevant to Biden and the country.
This was already well known within a week of October 7th and was reported on extensively then. But continually bringing it up in this long drawn out process seems like an attempt to downplay or deflect from the ongoing atrocities being committed by Israel.
Yeah I just assume that's happening everywhere. Maybe more or less by one side or the other, but war is ugly. There are millions of individuals involved. Some are good; some are awful. People do terrible things.
BOSTON, Dec 5 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden said on Tuesday that Hamas had repeatedly raped women and mutilated their bodies during its Oct.7 assault on southern Israel, citing survivors and witnesses of the attacks.
In a statement on its Telegram channel, Hamas said it denounced Biden's "attempt to falsely accuse" its fighters of committing sexual violence and rape on Oct. 7.
The Islamist group said Biden was joining Israel's effort to cover up war crimes in Gaza committed with U.S. support and to mislead public opinion.
Israel held an event at the United Nations in New York on Monday focused on sexual violence against women during the Oct. 7 attack.
Rape as a weapon of war is a crime against humanity," former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told the event in a pre-recorded video.
On Tuesday, Biden blamed Hamas for the collapse of a truce last week that had halted Israel's retaliatory military campaign against Gaza, saying the militant group's "refusal to release the remaining young women is what broke this deal".
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