Photos show scale of the destruction of Israel air attacks on Gaza

This is genocide by the book. After almost 2 decades of being kept poor & isolated, comes in an ultra modern army to do exactly what?

I'm German and anti Hamas.

Where's the fight against Hamas taking place, btw? There should be footage of destroyed Hamas stuff or some dead Hamas Soldiers to be seen, or am i missing something?

Israel has been bombarding for days

Where do you think Hamas is hiding???
- "Hiding" doesn't justify killing civilians.
I think fighting terrorism and warning citizens before bombing is not genocide. Telling citizens they are, in fact, should not run (hamas does that), is closer to genocide.
Actual process of getting rid of terrorists is not exactly something anyone should require to trust someone, but you can check a lot of videos they publish of destroying specific buildings in Gaza.
Be sure to also check the videos of Palestinians killing innocents left and right in Israel. They recorded those themselves.
How would you be able to tell the difference between a dead hamas soldier and a dead civilian? They don't carry weapons all the time, you know, and terrorist organizations don't exactly wear uniforms.

Damn bro I feel that. Thanks for sharing 😔
Way to make this about you
- Way to make this about you
  You're really, really stupid if that's what you got from it.
- I took it to be them anchoring in their own experiences and trying to use those experiences as a way to help others understand even 1/10 of what the Gazans are going through. Felt like it was coming from a place of support and empathy. I can see your interpretation too, though.
- It's illegal to share experiences now?
  They shared theirs so you can have context on how bad the situation is on gaza. Chill on your projections bro.
- The single downvote on each of the replies are you, aren't they?

I'm curious how you think Israel should respond after 1400 mostly civilians are killed and a couple hundred hostages taken by the government of the territory next to them.
- Not blow up the homes and businesses of a bunch of random civilians who had nothing to do with that?
- Is the respond of killing 3.5k+ civilian + countless injured + million displaced justified for the 1400 civilian killed + 200 hostage? Is the exchange rate of palestinian life to israeli life these day 2.5:1?
  I'm curious on how people could go "it's too cruel" when they read the news 1400 humans being brutally murdered but when they read the news about the killed civilian from the other side and also the constant terror and murder commited by the illegal settler in west bank they can make out all sort of justification to calm down their heart.
  Benjamin Netanyahu and the IDF is truly a genius, they successfully dehumanise the Palestinians so people will defend them.
- Over 1000 children alone have been brutally murdered by the terrorist nation of Israel since they declared this war only a few days ago.
  They're doing to Palestine what the Nazis did to them, only this time the world is watching and not even looking away. They're encouraging it, and even sending in resources to help them do it, and punishing people for even speaking out against it.
  They don't deserve to even mention Auschwitz after this. There are plenty of Jews out there who are opposed to it whose sympathies about WWII will forever stay with us. But not these... Copycats.

Genocide

If Israel's genocidal campaign is actually halted (likely temporarily), the lingering effects of this bombing campaign will continue to claim lives. There will be an increase in premature deaths, at least until Israel decides to complete its final solution. Weapons manufacturers and those who use their products aren't known for "green" initiatives.

Can someone give me the straight talk on why western countries, who usually at least try to look like they have the moral high ground, are falling all over themselves in support of Israel?

What is the non-conspiracy nutter reason why the US feels the need to provide billions of dollars in support to Israel?

Clearly actions on both sides are reprehensible, some more-so than others. There's no goodies and baddies here. There's aggressors, innocents, and victims on all sides.

Hamas are terrorists and Western governments support combatting them. Hamas hides behind civilians who tragically are the victims of the war Hamas started this time
- That's not really an answer though - obviously there's a question of degree.
  If there were 20,000 terrorists with access to advanced weaponry then a few hundred civilian casualties is probably acceptable. If there's 100 terrorists with access to some home made rockets then a few thousand civilian casualties probably isn't acceptable.
  Is the present campaign against Gaza with the mode of engagement by Israel really the surest path to peace with the least civilian casualties? Hard to believe given that there was a stale mate just a few weeks ago.
  Besides which, you can't kill all the terrorists, that's not how extremism works.
Because Israel is ultimately a problem created by western nations like the UK and US, have more similar culture to the west and are their strategic partner for the area whereas the arab nations are traditionally backed by Russia. So they basically HAVE to give them unconditional support to Israel or lose their influence on the region.
- I've done some reading and listening since I asked this question and I think that this is the correct answer.
  They're the only non-muslim country in the middle-east, and therefore our closest ideological partner, and therefore our best strategic partner.
War is about resources. USA and Britain don't give a shit about giving the land (that they stole from Palestinians) to Jewish people. Israel and Saudi Arabia are their only ways to project power in the region to have leverage against countries with more oil.
You said it. Actions of one side are more reprehensible than of the other. In fact, much more reprehensible from what I see.
One side: "We understand you have terrorists, but it's not our responsibility to help you with it because we value lives of our people. We are going to help you with basic supplies like water, electricity, internet etc., and protect ourselves with the iron dome. It all costs a lot but lives are really what matters."
Another side: "Our objective will not be completed until your country and citizens stop existing. We were elected having this objective by our people. We will teach our children that this is also their objective. We will build rockets. We will launch them at you even if some of them may not reach your territory. We will launch them from civillian buildings because we know you care about lives of civillians. You will think twice before launching anything back, and when you do, you will be blamed by the world for killing innocents. We will kill as many of your civilians as we can, by our hands. We will brake their limbs and hold them hostages, even if they are the citizens of other countries. And when you retaliate, the world will blame you for what you have done. The world must understand that by killing your people we fight for our future, and give us everything we need. This will be glorious, and you will die, and we will prosper, and the world will forget we are the killers, and remember you as killers. We will throw every resource we have for that to happen, be it the money we got as a humanitarian aid for our citizens or ~~baby dolls that should be indistinguishable from dead children with some mosaic. Oops we forgot the mosaic.~~ You didnt see it. You are the killers."
- Ignoring Jewish settlers in the West Bank, Gaza quite literally being a ghetto full of people forced off their land, the military checkpoints, the complete imbalance of deaths and suffering between the two sides.
  As reprehensible as the violence is on both sides, Israel/Palestine is an apartheid state and Palestinians suffer far more than just from the effects of violence.
- Hmm... it seems like the disparity of "badness" you describe would've been true a few months ago, but no longer is?
  Most of what you've said about Palestinians also describes israel now? Seems that way anyway.
  If we were looking for the path to peace with the least casualties, this doesn't seem like it.

"War isn't Hell. War is war, and Hell is Hell. And of the two, war is a lot worse. There are no innocent bystanders in Hell. War is chock full of them - little kids, cripples, old ladies. In fact, except for some of the brass, almost everybody involved is an innocent bystander." -- MAS*H

Fuck Israel for trying to defend against terrorism you mean?
- Just ask yourself - if Iran did this to an Israeli city 'in defense of the people of Gaza', who would you be saying to fuck?

It seems the only solution to the conflict is the most inhumane, and both sides know this. Maybe the conflict is better than the solution.

Would it be a a final solution of sorts? Sounds familiar
- They also unironically have been using "the Palestinian Question"
  So damn infuriating
Maybe the conflict is better than the solution.
Please expound.
- If only genocide can resolve the conflict, I'd be happier with the conflict as is. (Unlike all those facists downvoting my comment)

So far a lot of the news coverage on here about the israel-palestine conflict is from aljazeera. Why is that?

I would imagine because in the west there is a ton of pressure to side with Israel no matter what, to the point people are losing their jobs for showing any support for Palestine or being critical of Israels actions.
- Thanks for the information. I know this conflict has been one of the most controversial and politically confusing wars ever. I guess it's hard for people at large news sites to write about it.
Because Lemmy is just as hell-bent on making Israel look like the only bad guy in that conflict as Aljazeera is.
And I've noticed their before and after photos show a before of the suburbs and any after photos showing the city. Cheap tricks. Not that I doubt the main message, but it cheapens the integrity.

Reminds me of Mariupol.