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Us licenses are crazy in general.
Why it needs to list your height, weight, eye colour and sex at all make no sense.
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Optical identification.
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Height and Weight is actually useful for medical purposes in emergencies. You don't want to be given too much or too little of a blood transfusion.
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The license already has a picture. Neither sex nor gender provide any value in identification, and have lead to misidentification of cis people too.
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I think its less a data point they want for checking id (although I did know a dude who got busted trying to use his sister's ID while underage. She had short hair and a gender neutral name, but he had a mustache. Otherwise he looked plausibly like the photo, but there was that pesky F on the liscence.)
I think its more a matter of having it as a search criteria for narrowing database searches. Which logically should make it more useful as a 'gender presentation': M/F/other.
Got surveilance tape of a clearly masculine perp? 5'8, caucasian, blond hair, dark beard? You dont want your search clogged up with all the AMAB, who dont match the photo because they've transitioned, and missing all the AFABs whove started HRT and now have/ could have a beard.
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Sex: yes
angry Ace noises
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My country DOES have an option to remove the gender marker from ID and all official docs/files BUT it's only for intersex people 🙃
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In my state (in Australia) we don't have a gender marker on our licenses at all, which is great for every other time you use a license. But a cop can just pull your file on their computer and it displays it there. Seems like the pawblem is just cops, i dunno fam ¯(ツ)/¯
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100% agree.
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In a country that continues to segregate and discriminate by gender, you're going to keep getting government stamp your documentation for proper sorting.
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Gender is imaginary, people's gender/sexual identity is complex.
Consider Cartesian coordinate system such that the horizontal x-axis, called the real axis, is formed by the real numbers, and the vertical y-axis, called the imaginary axis, is formed by the imaginary numbers.
The complex plane allows for a geometric interpretation of complex numbers. Under addition, they add like vectors.
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Gender is imaginary
Its a public perception. I wouldn't say its "imaginary" any more than facial expressions or ethnic complexions.
"I don't look angry, because anger is imaginary" doesn't address why you're beat red with steam coming out your ears.
The complex plane allows for a geometric interpretation of complex numbers
Geometry is a good tool for describing points relative to one another. "You look more/less
<thing>
than<reference point>
" is as valid an observation in terms of height or weight or degree of tan as gender. Also very easy to be wrong, because of your own biases and misconceptions.But these are all things you can observe and report and evaluate from some objective framing.
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European driver's licenses don't have gender.
In France I believe they do, they are all masculine. "le permis de conduire"
They're masculine in German too - "Der Lappen". Despite that fact, some men get quite upset when you call them Lappen. How dramatic 🙄
Are drivers licenses standard for all of the EU or do they vary by country?
They vary some in design elements, but mostly they we all have the pink card format license now, and the info on them are mostly standardised across all countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_driving_licence
They do state the ID-number, which has digits that can be used to determine the registered gender.