3d ago

Zelenskyy: Russia no longer exports but imports petrol and that's our achievement

www.pravda.com.ua

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has stated that Russia is importing petrol, calling it the rightful result of the work of the Security Service, the Armed Forces, intelligence and Ukrainian weapons manufacturers.

Quote: "Today, there were also reports on our entirely justified strikes against Russian targets – against their logistics and fuel infrastructure. I am grateful to our warriors for their precision. Russia chooses war, Russia destroys our people's lives, and must be held accountable – our long-range capabilities will increase.

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3d ago

Zelenskyy: Russia no longer exports but imports petrol and that's our achievement

www.pravda.com.ua /eng/news/2025/10/03/8001160/

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Ukraine is what the Allies have been in World War 2-- a really fucking competent leadership. It doesn't matter if the opponent has a bigger stick if he's too stupid to use it and keep missing the swings. That's what Russia is. So much for "corrupt Ukraine". No country is void of corruption, but if Ukraine is as corrupt as Russian propaganda insists they are, they wouldn't have been able to survive this long and embarrass Russia. Speaking of which, it's funny I don't see much Russian bots try to smear Ukraine anymore (maybe Putin is instead focusing on propagandising the Russians). Since Kursk and the deep drone strike campaigns in Russia, it is clear that Russia is losing the propaganda war.
Maybe Ukraine couldn't retake the areas occupied by Russia, but they could deliver a Pyrrhic blow to Kremlin. Russian international prestige already diminished as soon as they invaded.
- Ukraine is what the Allies have been in World War 2-- a really fucking competent leadership.
  This is inaccurate on two fronts.
  
  Except this is accurate on all fronts. Compare that to the Axis, who barely coordinated. Hell, Mussolini didn't even tell Hitler he was going to invade Greece. When that didn't work out, Hitler had to bail him out. That pushed the German invasion of the Soviet Union by one or two months. Who knows, maybe those two months could have allowed Germany to arrive in Moscow earlier and avoid the freezing winter, and history as we know it may have turned differently. Don't even get me started the wastefulness of the Holocaust (the brain drain and potential manpower wasted), which Mussolini himself stated long before that the Nazi's racial obsession is wasteful. This is why I want to smash the myth of efficiency of Nazi war machine, because they never were.
  Also read up on Truman committee, who monitored corruption and wastefulness during the war period. They saved about $15 billion.
  
  Well? Where's your counter-argunent? I'm listening...
- Maybe Ukraine couldn't retake the areas occupied by Russia, but they could deliver a Pyrrhic blow to Kremlin.
  They have delivered a pyrrhic victory.
  Russia thought they could take Kyiv (Ukraine?) on 3 days.
  The fact that Ukraine has resisted so hard, have redefined the modern battlefield, have conducted huge deep strikes...
  Ukraine is winning.
  The reason Ukraine may not be "winning" is because the Russian war machine is huge. Like really really big.
  The reason that Ukraine is "winning" is because the Russian war machine is outdated and corrupt.
  The western opinion of Russia has been devastated. Russia tested themselves, and failed.
  Russia is holding on by their nukes.
- (maybe Putin is instead focusing on propagandising the Russians)
  Or maybe Putin decided the bot farmers were needed at the front lines as drone fodder.
- I'm just concerned about what happens if things start to go really badly for the Russians. Nothing good can come of a nuclear superpower that feels threatened and backed into a corner, either by the enemy or their own populace.
  
  They were ground to a standstill in Afghanistan too, and the apocalypse failed to materialize.
  Some geriatic leaders were shown to be incompetent, so they were replaced by other elderly drunks.
  
  Eh, the people around Putin know that they have better odds of maintaining their lives and fortune when no nukes fly.
- competence does not in any way indicate an absence of corruption
  
  One of the symptoms of corruption is diversion of critical resources to private pockets.
  Yeah, OK, all systems have some level of corruption, but setting binary thinking aside, in Ukraine, it can't be of great magnitude or they couldn't fight.
I find it really "eye opening" to watch a "small" country like Ukraine, just demolish a huge behemoth almost all on their own. Yes they got support from USA, that helped them survive a lot of the first invasion wave, where russia wasn't prepared for the resistance they were getting do to bad serveilance reportings, of the russian KGP. But after a lot of the help they are getting from their allies, they have been innovating and forcing themselves out of this.
This is the modern version of David and Goliath. Ukraine has revolutionized modern warfare completely.
- It seems to be similar to the Vietnam War (besides the distances ofc). The US lost that because none of the soldiers actually cared about going to fight in Vietnam, nobody cared about winning. It might be a similar story with Russia. What stakes do the Russian people face if they lose? What does Ukraine have to lose?
  
  nobody cared about winning
  That was an unwinnable war. China supported North Vietnam, with which it shared a long border. The US was fighting thousands of miles from its borders, with all the logistical problems that entailed, and was not willing or able to engage China directly in the fighting-- they had recently tried that in the Korean war and barely managed to achieve a stalemate at a high cost in lives. The South Vietnamese government was a former French colonial puppet regime that was rotten to the core, the South Vietnamese soldiers knew that and had no desire to die for those parasites or for the US's obscure objectives. The North Vietnamese soldiers had to either fight and win or be massacred by either the US or their own government. So they cared about winning, since for them it was an existential imperative. American draftees had more options than that.
  But I agree that your analysis that the cost of failure to the sides in that war was massively asymmetric is indeed also applicable to Russia and Ukraine.
  
  True
- Really dude ?? Really ?? Ukraine is running out of men.
  
  Idiot orc! Ukraine doesn't even have a full draft yet. They are not even recruiting men under 25 years of age. If anyone is "running out of men", it's the fucking weak ass ruzzian pigs, who use all the dirty tricks, like tricking foreign international students to the front line, as well as jailed criminals, invalids and elderly. Even 18 year old conscripts, who by ruzzian law, can't be sent to war, are being coerced into changing their contracts. They are sending wounded men, ON ACTUAL CRUTCHES, into battle. Speaking of ruzzian pigs...how come you aren't at the front line yet? Are you one of the millions of young ruzzian men who ran away to a foreign country, rather than serve the mighty midget Pootin? You should serve. You'd look great as a pink mist wafting in the morning breeze, Yuri.
- Isn't Ukraine second biggest European country after Russia?
  
  I don't think they meant geographic size. In terms of population they're around 9th, in terms of GDP more like 25th. They're not Malta obviously, but they don't really stack up against the big traditionally heavyweight countries by most metrics.
  
  Ukraine is poor as fuck, it's really surprising when you look at the numbers.
  
  Not citizen and economy wise.
- demolish
  Ok buddy...
  This is the modern version of David and Goliath.
  🤦
  
  Russia was considered to be the second most powerful military in the world. They now have suffered over a million casualties and are currently unable to prevent their own oil facilities from exploding on a weekly basis.
Only finished product, right? Russia without the ability to net export crude is basically just land.
- Not even very good land:
  Russia has been facing severe environmental issues, with the country's Natural Resources Ministry naming 35 cities and towns with dangerously high air pollution levels. The country's air pollution is largely attributed to industrial activity and vehicular traffic, with over 200 cities exceeding pollution limits. The Krasnoyarsk region has the highest air pollution level, with the city of Norilsk being the worst offender, releasing 1,787,000 tons of pollutants into the air. Other major cities like Moscow, St. Petersburg, Yekaterinburg, and Volgograd also experience high concentrations of air pollution. Water pollution is also a serious concern, with 75% of surface water and 50% of all water in Russia contaminated. The country's soil degradation, nuclear waste storage, and deforestation further contribute to its environmental challenges.
  
  Ah, the old Soviet approach to environmentalism: that's a bunch of capitalist hogwash Ivan, just dump out the arsenic anywhere.
It will be fun when Ukraine starts locating and burning the imports, too :) Fuck Pootin, and fuck ruzzia. They are curse to humanity !
- Destruction of pipelines and refineries will mean that it doesn't matter where the fuel's coming from. They'll either have to import refined products or do without.
  
  Indeed. But I'm also suggesting that the import facilities are targets now, too. If they can't produce, and can't import, they will just have to live like the cavemen that ruzzians are.
Headline seems true. To quote ISW's Oct 1 report:
Gasoline shortages continue in Russia and occupied Ukraine due to repeated Ukrainian strikes on Russian oil refineries. Russian energy-focused outlet Seala told Russian state outlet RBK on September 30 that Russian oil refineries are temporarily facing a 38 percent decrease (roughly 338,000 tons per day) in their primary oil refining capacity as of September 28 due to Ukrainian drone strikes, which have struck more than two dozen major oil refineries in Russia since early August 2025.[20] Seala estimated that Russia’s total available capacity for gasoline and diesel fuel production fell by 6 percent in August 2025 and by another 18 percent in September 2025, reaching historic lows. Seala estimated that Ukrainian drone strikes caused approximately 70 percent of downtime in gasoline production as the strikes disabled approximately a quarter of Russia’s oil refining capacity (roughly 236,000 tons per day) by the end of September 2025, and that four more Russian refineries, including two of the top five largest Russian oil refineries, halted production after drone strikes. Independent Russian outlet the Moscow Times reported that the fuel crisis has impacted the Far East and occupied Crimea the hardest, where Russian authorities have banned sales of more than 30 liters of gasoline per customer since the beginning of the week (roughly September 28).[21] Crimean occupation head Sergey Aksyonov announced on October 1 a limit of 20 liters of gasoline per customer in an effort to mitigate the gasoline shortage.[22] Russian economist Vladislav Inozemtsev noted that Russian oil companies have to wait months for repairs to damaged refineries, as Western sanctions have blocked the sale of equipment and replacement parts on which Russia relies and cannot easily replace with Chinese equivalents. Russian business outlet Kommersant reported that Russian Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak outlined to Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin on September 24 several possible means of alleviating Russia’s desperation for gas, including a zero-rate five percent import customs duty on gasoline imported from the People’s Republic of China (PRC), South Korea, and Singapore through certain checkpoints in the Far East.[23] Novak also reportedly proposed a rule that Russia will only authorize certain companies to supply fuel, which would allow Russia to export approximately 150,000 tons of gasoline from Siberian refineries westward per month to maintain supply balances in central Russia. Novak also reportedly proposed increasing gasoline imports from Belarus from 45,000 tons to 300,000 tons per month. RBK reported that Belarus began exporting gasoline to Russia in September 2025 after a pause that began in Fall 2024.[24]
Russia’s problems with oil refinery capabilities will likely persist amidst more damage to Russian oil refineries. Russian authorities and sources reported on October 1 that there was a large fire at the Yaroslavl Oil Refinery, located 700 kilometers from the Ukrainian border.[25] Yaroslavl Oblast Governor Mikhail Evraev claimed on October 1 that the incident is unrelated to a drone attack, and neither Ukrainian nor Russian sources have attributed responsibility for the fire.[26] Rostov Oblast Governor Yuriy Slyusar claimed that a Ukrainian drone strike overnight caused a fire at an industrial facility in Verkhnedonsky Raion, Rostov Oblast, and NASA FIRMS data indicates that there was a fire at the Sukhodolnaya Oil Pumping Station in Rostov Oblast.[27]
Noice
Nothing to see here. It's fake news. russia strong. Resistance is futile... ROFL
Isn't Russian economy based mainly on oil export? If that's true, then it should collapse soon. I a little bit doubt that it'll actually happen soon, though.
- They're still exporting but it's crude oil instead of refined product now so a lot less profitable.
  
  They're exporting crude on the cheap (due to sanctions) and buying back market rate refined fuels. They're losing twice on it.
  
  Russia has a moderately high cost of production and transportation for oil, so yeah, they're not making easy money selling crude.
- It's hard to get definite info from there, but some experts* say the economy is way worse off than what they show the West.
  OTOH China is helping them...
  and I mean that unironically.
  
  Of course. When you're waging war you don't show weakness to your enemy.
  What I find stunning is how little clue the standard Russian citizen has. They know there are fuel shortage but they don't know why.
  
  That's quite probable. Also even help from China is probably not sustainable. Let's hope it crumbles, the sooner the better.
- They are spending their export earnings, to import refined petroleum products now, ROFL. And you better believe that Ukraine will be targeting import facilities and infrastructure soon....
  Imagine an oil economy that has to import oil products, hehe. What an unmitigated fail that ruzzia, and their midget dicktator is.....
- The Russian economy now is largely based on providing war mateiriel. Russia's export earnings are heavily dependent on fossil-fuel exports, though, and they have to import both finished and raw materials to keep military production going. Those have to be paid for, and hardly anyone wants roubles.
- Makes sense.
Ukraine Uno Reversed Russia, petrostate is now petroneedstate.
Time to focus on other parts of their infrastructure.
- Nah. This works. It's a good focus to keep.
From China and Belarus apparently.

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