Never let downvotes discourage you from posting

You guys are getting downvotes?

I literally cannot see downvotes
Constantly because I don't like seeing propaganda about my country (🇲🇽) but a lot of the lemmy users seem to love their populist (and very conservative) goverment.
Also there are things I don't like about Linux or missing programs that are Windows only (like Music Bee and some Adobe programs).
But mostly because I'm a fucking asshole.

Hell, I love downvotes. It either means I'm wrong and need to check myself, or I made some people really mad. Win win.

Yep. Plus internet points aren’t real
- Tell that to the mods on dbzero lol
Noticing that "or"

Pineapple belongs on pizza

Pineapple, bacon, jalapeno is my favorite pizza.
I live in a country where nobody would bother disputing it, it seems like such a weird thing to have a disagreement over.
Pineapple on pizza is so fucking good, it makes me wonder what other fruits would be good on it too (besides tomato, obviously). Apples and cinnamon might work. Or maybe lychee and Korean beef?
Somebody needs to do some experiments with different fruits and report back.
You know, I would have considered this a cardinal sin a decade ago, but it’s actually so good!
I’ll raise the ante a bit, as I’ve been adding salt to my work coffee lately.
Try Pig'n'Pineapple with pineapple, bacon, ham, sausage, and some BBQ sauce. Pretty damn good pizza. Throw on some onions if you have em lying around too.
Don't care for Hawaiian pizza but pineapple on a veggie pizza is fire.

I downvote whenever I don‘t like the news. Is that wrong?

IMO. Yes. You should downvote things that are low effort, rage bait, or falsehoods.
You shouldn’t downvote things you don’t like or things you don’t agree with. For the latter you should really explain why you don’t agree, you may change the person point of view.
I upvoted you because you asked a question and seeking knowledge should be rewarded.
That said this place seems to downvote anything that questions the status quo of this place. I liken it r/conservative.
- Well, that‘s more or less the way I used to do it. And in my experience the up and down numbers do make sense that way. Only, at one point I couldn‘t bring myself to „like“ a post about starving kids to death anymore. Contributor popularity contest be damned. The UI offers a controversial ranking beside the hot setting, after all.

Unlike Reddit, there is no profile Karma in Lemmy. Downvote me all you want you bastards!

Downvotes without replies mean nothing. I'm hurt if someone actually refuted or corrected my comments with valid view points, which happens all the time and I take that L and learn from it.

I have no reason to not talk what I think here, except for doxxing and irl saftey off course. Also fuck censorship. I actually expect one day for my account to get banned by some power-tripping or PC mod. I'll just add +1 to my username and migrate to another instance xD

Have you already moved 77 times?
- I was answersplease0 when I signed up for reddit!!
Unlike Reddit, there is no profile Karma in Lemmy.
It's not shown and as far as I'm aware no one has written a tool to fetch it, yet. But the info is there.

More often than not, when I see I've been downvoted, I take pride.

It means you're annoying the right people. Probably.
There is an unending treadmill of people who consistently apply a sprinkling of two or three downvotes on all of my posts (not comments), which at this point I'm convinced are people who don't understand that Lemmy doesn't have an algorithm, as such, and think clicking the down arrow means "don't show me stuff like this in the future." Which is not how it works.
You don't get rid of me that easily, in other words.
- My instance Blahaj has downvotes disabled, so I just ignore/block things I don't like and upvote what I do. I like that better honestly.

I think my instance has downvotes disabled or hidden. It also has a neat alternative front-end which turns upvote buttons into hearts, so it's more of a "like" count.

It's much more peaceful that way.

This being posted in a Lemmy.world forum is especially poignant given that it seems to be by far the instance most riddled with state and political actors trying to manipulate opinions, with quite a number of those being actual instance admins or moderators of large forums there.

Beyond that and more in general, on certain subjects it's pretty obvious that there are people going around using either bots, multiple accounts or working in synchrony with others to "juice" the impact of their posts - you post something well thought and reasoned which is critical of one of such people's posts and when they respond to it with their own post, within a few minutes their post has 5 or 10 upvotes and yours the same downvotes, yet when you come back and check it hours later, unless it's deep down in a tread, everybody since has been upvoting your post with no upvotes for the other one.

In some things there's also this funny effect that might be due to bot/propaganda farms or geographical: for example, as an European with an European point of view, I'll often in Politics forums point out the hypocrisy of some things said and done by US Democrats and the tribalist types over here pretty much parroting the party propaganda line, because for me who have a far broader political culture than if had only experience American Politics, it's painfully obvious, and if I do that during the afternoon and night here (so morning and midday in the US), it quickly attracts a lot of downvotes, yet often if I check it out later, that post is slowly attracting more upvotes than downvotes and ends up with a slightly (or at times strongly) positive net vote, which I believe is either because there are actual organised propaganda activities on major Lemmy Political forums by the US Democrat Party and they focus on going after fresh posts in such forums and move on after a while (so their impact on votes is front-loaded) or people from geographical locations other than the US are far more likely to have a view on US politics similar to mine than Americans (so I'm getting more downvotes during US prime Lemmy-usage time and more upvotes the rest of the time).

Mind you, this is all self assessed "strange" observed patterns, so take it with a pinch and expect it to be heavily tainted with things like Confirmation Bias.

I think you may be slightly overstating the relevance of lemmy.world as a hub when it comes to the importance "state and political actors" might focus on "manipulating" opinion.
Beyond that and more in general, on certain subjects it’s pretty obvious that there are people going around using either bots, multiple accounts or working in synchrony with others to “juice” the impact of their posts - you post something well thought and reasoned which is critical of one of such people’s posts and when they respond to it with their own post, within a few minutes their post has 5 or 10 upvotes and yours the same downvotes, yet when you come back and check it hours later, unless it’s deep down in a tread, everybody since has been upvoting your post with no upvotes for the other one.
The Fediverse has public voting, so you can always check out whats going on via lemvotes if this happens.
- For the first part, let's just say that when I was a member of lemmy.world and commonly made posts critical of the Israeli Genocide in Gaza, I started receiving e-mails on the e-mail address I used to register in that instance, in my native language, from a Tel-Aviv based organisation inviting me for an online "Learn about Israel" course. I never make my e-mail public and as far as I know only instance Admins have access to that data about users, not moderators.
  Another example: you can find a ton of pro-Israel posts by gedaliyah@lemmy.world, a !news@lemmy.world moderator who also "strangely" seems to specialize in opinating about other Middle Eastern nations (mind you, this is so overt I actually doubt they're a paid state actor - probably just an amateur far-right Israeli).
  I've also seen and received some weird moderation actions in lemmy.world forums - for example like a post where I pointed out somemebody else's link to an article about something in China was to a think tank which gets funding from the Australian Defense Department, was moderated as "misinformation" when the "About Us" page in that site says exactly that they're funded by the Australian Defense Department. More broadly, posts in lemmy.world forums that relate to geostrategical "adversaries" and "allies" of countries like the US seem to attract way more moderation actions than pretty much anything else but outright spam and trolling.
  Hardly proof of an abundance of state actors there, I know, but definitelly strange.
  Also, purely from a "good management" point of view, it makes sense for state actors to concentrate their efforts on the largest instance and the larger forums in Lemmy, especially in terms of getting positions with power such as Admin and Moderator.
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  As for the rest, yeah, I should probably check votes when I spot a weird voting pattern.
  I'm averse to checking people's voting because I feel like I should treat voting as a way for people to anonymously signal their opinion, but it does make sense to check it if I see what I think is an abnormal pattern.

Never put more of your attention on the downvotes you get vs the upvotes you get.

A handful of downvotes is normal.

Ive found Lemmy much less stressful to use since I just turned off vote count visibility. Less urge to check on how my comments are doing despite it not really mattering.

I was looking for someone else to mention this.
The karma system on Reddit trapped me hard and the constant validation seeking was really a drag on my mental health. Getting one negative score comment would ruin my day, I really just want to be understood. I realize how unhealthy that is, but I'm not really sure what to do about it besides just not interacting with that place anymore. I don't have as much of a problem with being wrong in real life, it's more the fact that online I have the opportunity to take my time, be meticulous, edit my post to make sure it's perfect and I have said exactly what I wanted to in the exact way I wanted to...
Coming here and being able to disable the counts has been an absolute dream.

Yes, and ignoring the popularity of a comment is liberating. That said, I always worry about offending people I actually agree with due to wording. Like, Lemmy is fairly international, plus text can be ambiguous in tone sometimes (and people suffering depression or have various conditions can read neutral as negative or hostile, etc.)

If they comment, I try to clarify things and/or apologize, though. Hurting a nice, kind person (even if a stranger) can bother me for quite a while... Though I suppose they're not at likely to mass down vote you if they're kind.

One angry conservative downvoting everything all day long, every day.

There is at least one angry liberal downvoting all day too. (Probably more than one in each group). Try to do better yourself. For bonus points (worthless but a great feeling when you can bring yourself to it) up vote a well reasoned arguement you disagree with!

Or, if it bothers you too much, just join an instance that doesn't show downvotes.

Fuck fake internet points; I speak my mind.

I'm 38. I ran out of fucks to give nearly a decade ago. Don't like what I have to say? Don't read it. Freedom of speech, motherfucker.

I really hurt some little puke's feelings to the point that they follow me around and downvote.

I love it!

So fucking much!

Edit: I block at least one person a day but usually more, and I think I accidentally blocked whatever lunatic was doing it. I have concluded this because the conspicuous pattern has stopped recently

Every single one of my posts has at least one downvote. Just the way it is.

Thanks for the reminder! I’ve been giving less of a shit ever since getting off of Reddit. I’m not even sure why. I think it’s something to do with we’re all starting fresh. It’s a bit liberating actually lol

Don't tell me what I can't do!

Oh yeah. I don't normally pay attention but did notice I had one out of no where and then recalled I was in a back and forth with someone who reminded me of typical reddit dwellers. Im sure he likely did the typical reddit go through the users activity and downvote everything that was so common from those types.

I don't care about downvotes except for one reason. I often wonder if there was something I said that could be a good debate but the person took the easy route. Lost opportunity on both sides, if they had something to really contribute.